With the completion of Palo Alto's Mitchell Park Library and Community Center more than a year past due and the project's cost on an upswing, frustrated city officials have issued an ultimatum to its construction company: Get your act together now or you'll be replaced.
At close to $30 million, the project is by far the largest and most expensive component of the $76 million bond city voters approved in 2008. The library and the adjoining community center were supposed to be completed last year but have fallen woefully behind schedule. According to the latest estimate from the Public Works Department, the project is now about 82 percent finished and is expected to be completed at the end of this year.
Palo Alto has already prepared itself for a legal battle against Flintco Pacific, the construction company working on the project, by retaining seven different consultants, including attorneys and engineers who will be tasked with evaluating what went wrong. And last week, the city notified Flintco that the company has until May 16 to submit its plans for fixing "defective work" and commencing work in areas where progress has been "unacceptably slow."
The letter from City Manager James Keene to Flincto CEO Tom Maxwell describes a construction process that has devolved into a comedy of errors, with work crews quitting or failing to show up on the job on a "regular basis." On a typical day, the letter states, the number of workers on the site falls "considerably short of what would be expected" and on days when crews are present, the company is not "adequately coordinating or supervising trades." Furthermore, much of the work has been defective, failing inspections from the Building Department and not complying with contract requirements.
"The schedules provided by Flintco show slippage each month," the letter states. "Recently, the slippage has been so extensive that the schedule now indicates we are no closer to completion than we have been for many months. In fact, Flintco has actually lengthened the schedule due to completed work that must be torn out and re-done."
The company now estimates that the project will be done in late November.
Keene's May 2 letter informs Flintco that if the company does not provide its plans for fixing the various problems by May 16, the city will likely issue a "default notice" to Flinto's surety, whom the city had informed in January of the various construction complications.
This could lead to Flintco getting sacked and replaced with another company that would finish the job. According to Keene's letter, the city had asked the surety to intervene and help resolve the problems on numerous occasions but has had no luck. Hopes that the company's sale last year to Alberici Corporation would spark change were also quickly dashed.
"The reorganized senior management does not appear to have taken any significant steps to address the City's concerns," Keene's letter states. "The City has attempted to motivate Flintco to complete the job by regular partnering meetings, field-team motivators and even financial incentives. Nothing has worked."
City Attorney Molly Stump told the Weekly if Flintco doesn't meet the city's conditions in the next two weeks, it will be up to the surety to either bring Flintco into compliance or bring in another company to finish the job at the agreed-upon price. The surety in this case is the Zurich American Insurance Company.
"Historically, sureties tend to try to get the contractor who is already on site motivated and compliant," Stump said. "We wouldn't be surprised if that's what happens."
The city, she said, has a right to "have the performance bond guarantee us completion of the work at contracted price."
While seeking a response from Flintco, the city has also reached out to another contractor to fix Flintco's errors should Flintco fail to do so. According to a report issued last month, Palo Alto has established a contract with Big D Builders, which has recently completed the remodeling of the Palo Alto Arts Center, to "correct errors and finish work when Flintco Pacific fails to do so."
The 56,000-square-foot library and community center is Palo Alto's largest municipal construction project in four decades. Once completed, the library will be the largest of the city's five branches. The two-building community center will include a large community room, a teen center, a cafe, a computer room and a game room.
Comments
Crescent Park
on May 8, 2013 at 10:00 am
on May 8, 2013 at 10:00 am
Short, interesting commentary from a Philadelphia attorney specializing in construction matters is here:
Web Link
Leaving $8 million on the table should have been a sure-fire tip to the City of problems to come, in my opinion.
Crescent Park
on May 8, 2013 at 10:32 am
on May 8, 2013 at 10:32 am
The city gets ripped off at every turn, because our officials seem to have no motivation to push for value in what we pay for ... they are more concerned about how they are viewed by corporations, the business community and contractors.
The companies should have their payments clawed back, and the people who hired them need a big fat fail on their resumes for the rest of their working lives.
If government doesn't work it is because the contractors spend their lives working out ways to defraud it, while the officials spend a few years in office and are out by the time they know what's what.
What a sickening fiasco ... and now before the Mitchell Park mess is even done they are doing it with the Palo Alto Main Library. Fire the lot of these incompetents!
Crescent Park
on May 8, 2013 at 10:34 am
on May 8, 2013 at 10:34 am
Where is FlintCo's headquarters ... maybe a bunch of Palo Altans need to go there and start raising hell in their parking lot or something!?
Crescent Park
on May 8, 2013 at 10:41 am
on May 8, 2013 at 10:41 am
HOWDY NEIGHBORS -
HERE IS THE EMAIL ADDRESS OF Dana Birkes, Vice President, Business Development and Marketing of FlintCo ....
dbirkes@flintco.com
It might be nice if a bunch of Palo Altans let him know how we feel about this and that we want this fixed so we can get the library that they promised us and are charging us for!
South of Midtown
on May 8, 2013 at 10:52 am
on May 8, 2013 at 10:52 am
As a Palo Alto resident, I'm once again disappointed in the lack of judgement and taste on the part of our representatives. I am in no hurry for the eyesore that is the new library to be completed because at least now we have the excuse that it is a work in progress. When Los Altos continues to quietly approve and build Eco friendly, lovely new projects such as the Packard Foundation's new headquarters, why does Palo Alto go on and on approving badly designed and executed projects that cost so much and add nothing for years to come? The drawings for the Mitchell Park project were hideous, and they hired a company with a name that only Dickens could have chosen, and just look at the results. You had one job. . .
College Terrace
on May 8, 2013 at 10:59 am
on May 8, 2013 at 10:59 am
Hooray for contracting out! Yay! We get what we pay for and want! Yeah let's all
Go to the headquarters of this person, us Palo Altans will sure scare the heck out of them!
Crescent Park
on May 8, 2013 at 11:19 am
on May 8, 2013 at 11:19 am
Nit pick: Los Altos (the city) is not designing/building the Packard Foundation. That's the LPF's work.
Crescent Park
on May 8, 2013 at 11:28 am
on May 8, 2013 at 11:28 am
FlintCo's headquarters are in Tulsa, Oklahoma. One thing I have noticed about this area of the country, having lived and worked there before is that they, and the people in general have a nasty attitude about California - they really hate California. They are programmed to hate California the way opponents in the Middle East are programmed to hate each other it is very deep and strong. Of course not with everyone.
I realize the dangers of stereotyping, but I am not kidding about this, go just about anywhere in the Southeast of the US with California license plates and the odds are very strong that you will get some major negative attitude. Many of the people there, and particularly many of the professionals there have nothing but contempt for anything California, and seem to blame us for all the ills of the nation let alone their personal problems.
Did anyone check on this companies history of working in California?
South of Midtown
on May 8, 2013 at 11:29 am
on May 8, 2013 at 11:29 am
Dear Nit, Los Altos had to approve the Packard project, as well as its library and other projects - just as Palo Alto approved the disaster on Alma, the awful JCC, and this dreadful library. The common denominator is the bad designs, the damage to our city, and the people we have charged with the responsibility of making the decisions, versus the good choices that are consistently being made in Los Altos.
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 8, 2013 at 11:30 am
on May 8, 2013 at 11:30 am
I feel like throwing up when I read about such gross incompetence.
Old Palo Alto
on May 8, 2013 at 11:35 am
on May 8, 2013 at 11:35 am
How about one of the Bay Area TV stations' troubleshooter teams getting involved? The least that would happen would be a lot of embarrassing publicity for Flintco, and perhaps whatever city entity hired them.
My question: How much investigation did city officials do before they contracted with THIS group? Surely Flintco cannot have a stellar record if they have screwed up so much for so long on this project? And why did we wait so long to get to this point?
Adobe-Meadow
on May 8, 2013 at 12:00 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 12:00 pm
Unfortunately, government agencies are required by law to take the low bid -- even if they have reservations about the ability of the bidder to do the job.
There is a better system, but would require law changes. Take all bids. Throw out the highest and the lowest. Average all the others. Give the bid to the one closest to the average. That ensures there is no favoritism, but also ensures that you get 'real' bids -- not low bidders hoping to add in changes to up the price after the work is in process.
Professorville
on May 8, 2013 at 12:13 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 12:13 pm
Another case of being too attracted to the lowest bid, without hiring someone to check to make sure the bid was complete. I guess the city leaders got what they paid for.... BTW, the City of Palo Alto and the State of California have ridiculously high engineering and building standards - some necessary, some not, in my opinion. A builder from Oklahoma unfamiliar with our state and city building requirements will more likely miss things and under bid such a complex project. Can the city learn from their mistakes? Only hire local builders, perhaps?
College Terrace
on May 8, 2013 at 12:30 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 12:30 pm
I will add another complication.
I help to maintain the Palo Alto Little League (PALL) park. I have watched this library thing from the beginning, since it is next door to us. It has been a bit of a zoo, given the changing personnel. I typically see very little work going on over there.
From my perspective, as part of PALL, I can state that the large trucks sometimes staged in our parking lot, and destroyed our surface. Some of them came in, then turned around, once the drivers understood that it was not the right entrance...more damage. I talked to several drivers, and they said they had no advance knowledge about what route to take.
I will advise the PALL Board to demand damages, since it would be due to us. We are a non-profit, and it is very hard to stay in the black. Parking lot repair is VERY expensive!
Old Palo Alto
on May 8, 2013 at 12:47 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 12:47 pm
A project due over a year and way overspend, the staff who handles this project should get a demotion or fired.
Fairmeadow
on May 8, 2013 at 12:54 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 12:54 pm
I had never heard of Flintco, or Flintco/Pacific, when the Mitchell Park contracts were signed. The City, to the best of my knowledge, has not provided the public with any specific information as to why this General Contractor was chosen, other than it came in with the lowest bid—which was apparently about $8M lower than the next lowest bid.
So, I decided to do a Google search on “Flintco” and “Flintco/Pacific”. The following are the most interesting links/information that popped up on the first couple of screens of search results—
Flintco/Pacific—A subsidiary of Flintco, Inc.:
Web Link
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Top California Construction Firms:
Web Link
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Web Link
Native American Heritage
Founded in 1908, the operating divisions of general contractor The Flintco Cos. provide pre-construction, construction management, design/build, project and program management and general contracting. Flintco’s nine offices in the West and Midwest build facilities for corrections, education, healthcare, corporate, office, sports, hospitality, utilities, government and not-for-profit agencies.
Flintco was founded by C. W. Flint Sr. as Oklahoma was transitioning from Indian territory to statehood. The Redbird Smith Health Center in Sallisaw, Okla., was the first of a long list of Native American building projects. The company has worked with more than 65 Indian nations building community centers, schools, healthcare facilities, hospitality, leisure and commercial projects.
Flintco includes the tribe, pueblo or rancheria as a fully vested team member throughout the construction of its Native American projects. The company – which received its first Tribal Employment Rights Certification in 1991 – also mentors Native American and minority subcontractors and hires and trains Native American workers. It has obtained certifications from many additional tribes.
Over the years, Flintco has received awards such as the National Minority Business Advocate of the Year award from the U.S. Department of Commerce for outstanding performance in the service industry and excellent service to the minority community.
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I wasn’t able to find any posting about Flintco, or Flintco/Pacific failures-to-perform, outside of the Palo Alto situation. Of course, Flintco/Pacific seems to be a rather small firm, with revenues of less than $50M, according to the link above entitled “Top CA Contractors”, so it’s hard to know just how many jobs it has managed to secure in the past five years here in California, from a 20 minute google search.
According to the City's letter to Flintco--"work crews have been quitting or failing to show up to the job site on a regular basis.” So, that is probably one of the reasons that progress is so slow. The comment from a person claiming to be a worker on the site (PA.Patch) suggests other, deeper, problems.
It is difficult to believe that the City is not a part of this problem. The question I would like to ask is if there is anyway, other than a lawsuit, to get a full review of the City’s role in this affair that is honest, and public? Virtually every situation in the past where City malfeasance has been at issue has been hidden from public view by the City Attorney. What’s to believe that the current City Attorney won’t do the same?
I fear that the local Press is just too small to do much more than report on City Press Releases. So—will we ever know what happened?
Downtown North
on May 8, 2013 at 1:53 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 1:53 pm
Flintco for this project that should have been completed a year ago? What happened with Palo Alto's "decision makers"? The recent construction projects in Palo Alto have been bizarre; the amount of $$$$ for this Mitchell Park project is ridiculous, and the building is a monstrosity.
I must agree with David Pepperdine!
Mountain View
on May 8, 2013 at 2:20 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 2:20 pm
Let's see.. a McDonald's can be built in less than a month.. starting from a bare field. One month and they up are and running with customers being served.
But it takes the government this long to build a library?
I can't wait until the government is running my healthcare. It's going to be so great.
Midtown
on May 8, 2013 at 2:40 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 2:40 pm
This is so pathetic. We are so blessed to live in this town, but between our local government and our School Board, we are truly surrounded by a "Confederacy of Dunces"!
Crescent Park
on May 8, 2013 at 2:59 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 2:59 pm
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Charleston Gardens
on May 8, 2013 at 3:16 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 3:16 pm
I say tear the ugly thing down, fill the space with some landscaping or a much needed playing field, (we'll be WAY ahead of the game as a community not having that awful building casting its black shadow on our lives), recycle/sell off salvaged building materials, and sue the company to get whatever money back possible. Cut losses and save us from that eyesore of a building.
Midtown
on May 8, 2013 at 3:29 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 3:29 pm
Has anyone seen the new 49ers stadium? Last year towards the tail end of the Great America season, it was dirt, and they were moving the cranes in. In December, I went back for that holiday lights celebration, and the skeleton was nearly complete. Now, the stadium looks to be nearly complete on the outside, with only the interior work to be done. They will easily be done in plenty of time for the 2014 season. Essentially 2 years to complete a 65,000 seat high-tech stadium capable of hosting the Superbowl!
The old Mitchell Park library was demo'd in October of 2010, and here we are, just a few months shy of 3 years, and the end isn't nearly in sight.
Crescent Park
on May 8, 2013 at 3:35 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 3:35 pm
Cities don't approve architectural style. The Packard building was designed by it's architects. Los Altos only applied their zoning requirements.
Unfortunately you cannot legislate good taste.
As much some people don't like the guy - J. Arrillaga and his construction firm (Vance Brown) get things done and get it done fast. Stanford Stadium. Maples Pavilion. And now the soon to be new Paly Athletic facilities --- they are going to tear down both gyms and have brand new ones (with much more space, including a basement level) in 15 months or less.
College Terrace
on May 8, 2013 at 3:53 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 3:53 pm
>As much some people don't like the guy - J. Arrillaga ....
I like him a lot! He helped out Palo Alto Little League, as well as many other projects in Palo Alto. He is a great resource for Palo Alto. He should be celebrated, not hated.
Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 8, 2013 at 4:08 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 4:08 pm
PA Weekly, can you research who is accountable for the Mitchell Park Library project?
Even if government is required to accept the lowest bid, the specs must presumably be met in that bid.
Surely there is SOME means of accountability within the city and with this poor-performing builder.
Surely there should have been very close oversight IF there is history or concern or the slightest hint that our taxpayer funds will/could be squandered in such a fashion along with unreasonable delays/work stoppage. They have failed to deliver.
This reminds me of the SF - Oakland Bay Bridge debacle currently happening with huge nuts/bolts that have failed and are potentially endagering the public now or in the future, during a quake or during normal use as people driver over the Bay.
There seem to be very high salaries of all these government employees with awfully little accountability of performance.
We are frequently lectured how intelligent and "top" our Palo Alto city council and city staff and city employees are; whoever was in charge of the Mitchell Park Library rebuild is clearly not performing at that level and should be held accountable.Demotion or firing - and that's an aside to the legal costs we taxpayers are undoutedly paying for, unnecessarily, in order to try to corral that builder into performing or quitting the job so someone else can take over...we still can't recoup the inconvenience cost of not having the facility completed and up and running as it should have been. Who knows when it really will be available for the public to use
I would be impressed if some city official will take ownership and go into action to make material improvements to this situation, but I am not hopeful; rather I expect the hide and dodge routine.
Midtown
on May 8, 2013 at 5:14 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 5:14 pm
I am as unhappy about the late opening as anyone in town because I am a person with four library cards: Palo Alto, Mountain View, San Mateo County and Santa Clara County! I love me some libraries. And I was very excited about my branch being rebuilt and modernized. I don't have a problem with the design. I don't care what it looks like as long as there are books inside!
But I don't see why so many people blame city officials for the terrible performance of the contractor. Yes, they should have broken out the lawyers earlier. But they signed a contract believing the contractor would do a good job and in a timely manner. Are they supposed to have foreseen this? How?
Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 8, 2013 at 5:54 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 5:54 pm
This year Palo Alto will have closed the Main Library, not opened the Mitchell Park library,
and will close the wonderful Palo Alto golf course for renovation. So the citizens of Palo Alto will not have two main libraries and the golf course to enjoy. I wonder what else the city will close that the citizens frequently use for their need and enjoyment. The golf course will cost many millions more than necessary because the City Council chose Plan G, the most expensive plan with playing fields and reconfiguration and be closed for probably a year. I hope the city knows where the money to do that will come from.
Palo Verde
on May 8, 2013 at 5:56 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 5:56 pm
Simply a HORRIBLE building design.
Our entire neighborhood hates this monstrosity.
The low bid was SO LOW that they should have been disqualified and non-responsive. As an old hand at this type of work, I'll tell you that there is never a free lunch on a poor bid. You may not pay at signing, but you will pay to fix the problems with an incompetent contractor. They will eat you alive to claw back the monies they left on the table.
FIRE THEM AND PULL THE SURETY BOND! This should have been done a year ago. The work is totally sloppy.
South of Midtown
on May 8, 2013 at 6:05 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 6:05 pm
to re-interate another post here that one of the biggest mistake was to hire a contractor from a RED State, I am not against anybody, but they hate california. this is not a general rule, there are lots of good people out there in the flyover states.
another community
on May 8, 2013 at 7:47 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Flintco is a great company. Rated very high in California for contractors...#20. They are doing work all across the US. My son worked for them for years and always had nothing but good things to say about this company. I would like to hear their side of the story.
Palo Alto Orchards
on May 8, 2013 at 8:06 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 8:06 pm
So where were the City of Palo Alto Public Works officials and inspectors at when this "shoddy" work was completed under their supervision? Where was City Manager Keene, who should have at least questioned managers employed by the city if this $30 million project was proceeding on schedule and per contract, prior to waiting until the project is 85% complete. Keene and his shadow organization of managers have again shown their inability to manage city matters with their lack of leadership skills. How many more millions of dollars must resident taxpayers pay out due to city management incompetence?
Downtown North
on May 8, 2013 at 8:12 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 8:12 pm
Someone needs to be accountable!
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 8, 2013 at 9:00 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 9:00 pm
And nor the city wants to build a new police department building. ;-). What could possibly go wrong with that?
Community Center
on May 8, 2013 at 10:18 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 10:18 pm
How about group 4 and sloppy set of drawing approved by the city of palo alto that is ridicuosly a joke the city of palo alto oficcials should be countable and need to be fired
Midtown
on May 8, 2013 at 10:31 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 10:31 pm
Sure FlintCo is a disaster, but the folks at city hall are responsible. Suggest we use this as a learning experience and fire everyone in city government associated with this project.
Barron Park
on May 8, 2013 at 11:04 pm
on May 8, 2013 at 11:04 pm
Ugh. There goes our tax dollars. So happy that about $700 of my dollars per year are going to fund this monstrosity! We would have been better off giving everyone in the city a Kindle. Probably would have been cheaper. And a heck of a lot faster.
Midtown
on May 9, 2013 at 12:22 am
on May 9, 2013 at 12:22 am
Hi, actually City of San Jose is required to take the second to lowest bid. That way it gets rid of the incompetent low-ballers.
Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 9, 2013 at 12:32 am
on May 9, 2013 at 12:32 am
@Crescent Park Dad - Of course cities approve architectural styles. Probably meddle a lot more than they should.
City council approves Packard building design:
Web Link
Barron Park
on May 9, 2013 at 7:14 am
on May 9, 2013 at 7:14 am
To tell the truth, I liked Mitchell Park the way it was. Why does Palo Alto have to keep "upgrading" from traditional to ugly? The JCC at Charleston and San Antonio is horrific, the ticky-tacky "low income" housing going up all over south Palo Alto is disturbing.
Who is driving this train?
Midtown
on May 9, 2013 at 10:59 am
on May 9, 2013 at 10:59 am
What I want to know is, what services will we now have to lose to compensate for all of these cost overruns?
South of Midtown
on May 9, 2013 at 11:52 am
on May 9, 2013 at 11:52 am
I voted against the library bond because I knew it would be a debacle. They wasted a whole lot of space because the tree huggers of Palo Alto wanted to save an old oak tree which is nearing the end of it's life anyway.
The problem with our City Administration is, there is no good leadership capable of taking charge and making good decisions. This library is a perfect example of design by committee, it's a mess.
Fairmeadow
on May 9, 2013 at 12:08 pm
on May 9, 2013 at 12:08 pm
California Cities are not required to award bids to the “lowest bidder”, although that does seem to be how municipal bidding works in most places. Cities can create exemptions/exceptions, in order to protect themselves, and the taxpayers. The following is some language from the City of Poway’s ordinance on purchasing—
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Web Link
E. At its sole discretion, the City Council may reject any and all bids presented and readvertise for bids pursuant to the procedure prescribed above. In the event no bids are received or all bids are rejected, the City Council may, in accordance with Public Contracts Code Section 20167, and any amendments thereto, direct the Director of Administrative Services or designee to proceed pursuant to paragraphs relating to open market procedure or competitive negotiations.
Open market purchases shall, wherever possible, be based on at least three bids and shall be awarded to the lowest responsible bidder. The lowest responsible bidder will be the individual or firm who submits a responsible bid based on total cost, and which is determined to be the most advantageous to the City. (Ord. 675 § 7, 2008; Ord. 260 § 1, 1988; Ord. 55 § 8, 1982)
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Notice the words “responsible bidder” in the bottom paragraph. Of course, not awarding the contract to the lowest bidder opens the door to lawsuits. This particular approach also requires the City Council to have some idea about how construction works, and what a good, or bad, bid looks like.
In the case of Mitchell Park, the City was in such a hurry to push this project into execution that it’s difficult to believe that they performed any meaningful plan checks—which might well be one of the key issues driving change orders requiring “more steel”.
Palo Alto can change the way it awards bids, if it wants to.
Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 9, 2013 at 12:27 pm
on May 9, 2013 at 12:27 pm
And now the city wants to re-name the Main Library as a 'branch' because it is not in the center of Palo Alto and inferior to MItchell. Maybe not the exact 'center', but it certainly is in the middle of a huge residential neighborhood from Bayshore to El Camino and the Creek to the Oregon Expressway. Yes, despite the Downtown Branch, it does serve that entire area with one high school, one junior high, and two elementary schools with one more pending - Garland. What the city did was 'rob' the current Main Library of a huge number of its volumes. That's NOT what we voted for or were told what we would get. Now Mitchell is a
disaster and Main is now closed. I"m not voting for anything anymore and will not believe anything this city says. This city council and the last one must be the worst. Never thought any administration could be worse that Benest's, but I was wrong.
Crescent Park
on May 9, 2013 at 3:12 pm
on May 9, 2013 at 3:12 pm
> Why does Palo Alto have to keep "upgrading" from traditional to ugly?
> Who is driving this train?
You've seen Star Trek I take it ... It's the Borg working to absorb Palo Alto.
Deep inside all of these buildings are Borg maintenance units and drones readying the attack to finish the rest of the human beings in Palo Alto off. There's no resisting it. ;-)
Crescent Park
on May 9, 2013 at 3:19 pm
on May 9, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Seriously though, I don't think there's anything wrong with the building's looks ... it's not a global wonder of the world, I'll grant ya, but it seems nice and the real problem is that it's not done after all these years and no one is doing anything - it's a violation of the public trust.
GET IT FINISHED!
Community Center
on May 9, 2013 at 4:13 pm
on May 9, 2013 at 4:13 pm
A vast majority of the voters let themselves be led around by the nose by FOPAL [portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff] and their well oiled propaganda machine and voted for this ridiculous bond measure. Did anyone seriously think, knowing the track record for palo alto projects, expect this project to be completed in a competent manner? We do not need 5 libraries to begin with, but the voters spoke and now they are stuck with the results. Bottom line, always vote "no" on any palo alto bond measure. And of course the council will wring their hands and claim they were " misled" or " not informed" -- of course Larry Klein will be leading the pack on making excuses.
How is it that mountain view manages to get stuff built In a timely and competent manner?
Midtown
on May 9, 2013 at 4:33 pm
on May 9, 2013 at 4:33 pm
At this rate, the stadium in Santa Clara will be finished before the library.
It will take just two years to build a $1 Billion stadium for the 49ers; yet, it has taken more than four years to build a $30 Million library.
The lame excuses are making this matter even worse.
I have seen a lot of libraries and public building projects in California and elsewhere that did NOT have the extensions, cost overruns and finger pointing that this little library is causing.
South of Midtown
on May 9, 2013 at 5:26 pm
on May 9, 2013 at 5:26 pm
Didn't the city hire TURNER Construction to be the full time construction manager.
Where's the value proposition there? Why did they not step in and inform the city that the contactor was incompetent and unqualified.
Funny...that big TURNER sign has disappeared from the fence.
Not too proud of this one eh?
Adobe-Meadow
on May 9, 2013 at 5:44 pm
on May 9, 2013 at 5:44 pm
1 year behind schedule ,,how just in last 9 months they issue 80 ASI,,, sorry that is not behind schedule Why we not listen the other side of the story ,,,,over 2000 RFI AND OVER 200 ASI some thing behind ...lets listen to the other sde do not belive what this people said
Fairmeadow
on May 9, 2013 at 7:35 pm
on May 9, 2013 at 7:35 pm
The twems RFI and ASI are described, and explained on these web-pages--
How To Process RFIs:
Web Link
What is an ASI:
Web Link
South of Midtown
on May 9, 2013 at 9:49 pm
on May 9, 2013 at 9:49 pm
I do have to say that there have been some good projects in town recently. The new buildings at Gunn High School are coming along well. They somehow managed to make them fit in with the original prison industrial style buildings, while making them tasteful oases in the existing drab site. The Elks Club on El Camino has a nice retro flair, and the new Keys School also on El Camino. I haven't seen the other new school construction sites, but if they're as well designed as Gunn's, they will be a positive addition to Palo Alto, unlike some of the eyesores.
Crescent Park
on May 9, 2013 at 10:38 pm
on May 9, 2013 at 10:38 pm
I agree - the new buildings at Gunn are marvelous.
St. Claire Gardens
on May 10, 2013 at 11:29 am
on May 10, 2013 at 11:29 am
Here I go again. No accountability.
Incomplete review of plans by people who were clearly clueless in the City offices.
A ridiculous bid proces where an incomprehensible low bid won the contract. Again the city staff was out to lunch on what the project really required. You cannot be a responsible customer on this scale of project without knowing what the hell you are doing.
Whos is going to be fired for this project? Someone blew it. Their manager is the one who shold be culpable. INstead they hide an d take no responsbility. Mr Keene. The buck stops with you. What the hell is going on in your offices?
College Terrace
on May 11, 2013 at 11:39 pm
on May 11, 2013 at 11:39 pm
Palo Alto Govt may be running out of patience... and what, I suppose they will ask the builder what to do next? This whole thing reeks of failure at city hall. Did the city have a qualified lawyer actually READ the contract for the library project, and flag potential problems?? The way things have shaped up over the past few years on this project, I'd say NO.
Another FAIL at city hall.
I expect the "free" "public Benefit" police station will be the next failure at city hall, regrettably.
Greenmeadow
on May 12, 2013 at 10:01 am
on May 12, 2013 at 10:01 am
Ill never vote yes on another Palo Alto bond issue again, ever.
The main library just closed for a supposed 18 months, is this going to turn into 3 years?
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 12, 2013 at 11:53 am
on May 12, 2013 at 11:53 am
This is the city's first new building (not re-model) in over 25 years. What a mess.
Community Center
on May 12, 2013 at 12:46 pm
on May 12, 2013 at 12:46 pm
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another community
on Jun 26, 2013 at 3:04 pm
on Jun 26, 2013 at 3:04 pm
Meanwhile the good people of Palo Alto have no library to show for their (borrowed) money. Eventually the performance bond holder will have to pay some of the losses. I just hope all the small subcontractors don't get screwed in the process, as they often do (I work for one of them).