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City weighs penalties after illegal demolition at Edgewood Plaza

Palo Alto's planning commissioners recommend fine of about $94,000 for destruction of Eichler building

The developer looking to renovate the long dilapidated Edgewood Plaza in Palo Alto was supposed to preserve a historic building, not destroy it.

But what's done is done, and on Wednesday night, Palo Alto's Planning and Transportation Commission struggled to determine how to punish the Sand Hill Property Company for its rare and unusual transgression. After some back and forth, commissioners decided by a 4-1 vote, with Michael Alcheck dissenting and Eduardo Martinez and Greg Tanaka absent, to recommend a $94,000 fine – a penalty that was at the high end of the city staff's recommendation.

The decision was tricky for several reasons. For one, everyone agreed that the run-down commercial building that Sand Hill's contractors erroneously demolished last fall wasn't exactly a hot commodity. Its main value lay in the fact that it was a rare example of a commercial building developed by mid-century builder Joseph Eichler.

But the commission Wednesday recognized that if the penalty were too severe, it would be the neighborhood that will bear the brunt of the punishment -- in the form of a delay in the plaza's completion. Edgewood Plaza at 2080 Channing Ave. had been approved with overwhelming neighborhood support after years of negotiations between Sand Hill and the community.

Yet commissioners agreed that Sand Hill should pay for its transgression. Otherwise, as Commissioner Carl King argued, other developers would think it's OK to violate their agreements with the city.

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"I don't want to make it an unreasonable burden for the applicant," King said, quickly adding that he also doesn't want violations like this one to be "par for the course."

Commissioner Alex Panelli agreed.

"We've got to provide some kind of disincentive to the old adage that it's easier to ask for forgiveness afterward than to ask for permission beforehand," Panelli sad.

Alcheck, the sole dissenter, agreed that some penalty should be imposed but preferred to leave the exact amount to the City Council.

Staff had proposed a range of potential penalties, from about $9,000 to roughly $94,000, depending on whether the commission prefers to base its fine on costs of permits or of construction. Vice Chair Arthur Keller proposed to go with the latter and recommended that the council impose a fine in the range of $91,200 and $94,200, which amounts to roughly 20 percent of the project's construction cost.

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In keeping with the spirit of historic preservation, the funds could be used for rehabilitation of another historic building under the commission's recommendation. The council can also direct that the funds be spent in other ways. One proposal floated by staff would be to create a new sidewalk along West Bayshore Road, from Edgewood Plaza to the East Palo Alto border.

The commission debated whether the funds should be used for historical rehabilitation or for the new sidewalk. Ultimately, commissioners recommended that the city survey the plaza's neighbors to see if they want the new sidewalk and then submit the survey results to the City Council for consideration.

Sand Hill last month already agreed to build a new structure in the same style as the demolished one but with new materials and greater compliance with modern building codes, alleviating any concerns about the plaza's historic character being preserved.

In considering the penalty, the commissioners were wading in uncharted waters. Though illegal demolitions aren't new to the city, no developer has ever destroyed a building that was supposed to be a component of a "public benefit" package, planner Elena Lee said. With public cynicism running high about the sufficiency of public benefits that developers offer in exchange for planned-community (PC) zoning, commissioners agreed that it's important for the developer's action to have consequences.

Sand Hill had been authorized by the city to build 10 single-family homes at the site and to provide public benefits that include a new grocery store and rehabilitation of two commercial buildings, one on its existing site and the other at a new location. Instead, construction workers demolished the building that was supposed to be moved.

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On Wednesday night, John Tze of Sand Hill offered another mea culpa for the unauthorized demolition. Tze said he was as surprised as the neighbors when he learned about the demolition.

"My construction team and I take responsibility, as they are my team," Tze said. "They came to their own reasoning and jumped the gun."

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City weighs penalties after illegal demolition at Edgewood Plaza

Palo Alto's planning commissioners recommend fine of about $94,000 for destruction of Eichler building

The developer looking to renovate the long dilapidated Edgewood Plaza in Palo Alto was supposed to preserve a historic building, not destroy it.

But what's done is done, and on Wednesday night, Palo Alto's Planning and Transportation Commission struggled to determine how to punish the Sand Hill Property Company for its rare and unusual transgression. After some back and forth, commissioners decided by a 4-1 vote, with Michael Alcheck dissenting and Eduardo Martinez and Greg Tanaka absent, to recommend a $94,000 fine – a penalty that was at the high end of the city staff's recommendation.

The decision was tricky for several reasons. For one, everyone agreed that the run-down commercial building that Sand Hill's contractors erroneously demolished last fall wasn't exactly a hot commodity. Its main value lay in the fact that it was a rare example of a commercial building developed by mid-century builder Joseph Eichler.

But the commission Wednesday recognized that if the penalty were too severe, it would be the neighborhood that will bear the brunt of the punishment -- in the form of a delay in the plaza's completion. Edgewood Plaza at 2080 Channing Ave. had been approved with overwhelming neighborhood support after years of negotiations between Sand Hill and the community.

Yet commissioners agreed that Sand Hill should pay for its transgression. Otherwise, as Commissioner Carl King argued, other developers would think it's OK to violate their agreements with the city.

"I don't want to make it an unreasonable burden for the applicant," King said, quickly adding that he also doesn't want violations like this one to be "par for the course."

Commissioner Alex Panelli agreed.

"We've got to provide some kind of disincentive to the old adage that it's easier to ask for forgiveness afterward than to ask for permission beforehand," Panelli sad.

Alcheck, the sole dissenter, agreed that some penalty should be imposed but preferred to leave the exact amount to the City Council.

Staff had proposed a range of potential penalties, from about $9,000 to roughly $94,000, depending on whether the commission prefers to base its fine on costs of permits or of construction. Vice Chair Arthur Keller proposed to go with the latter and recommended that the council impose a fine in the range of $91,200 and $94,200, which amounts to roughly 20 percent of the project's construction cost.

In keeping with the spirit of historic preservation, the funds could be used for rehabilitation of another historic building under the commission's recommendation. The council can also direct that the funds be spent in other ways. One proposal floated by staff would be to create a new sidewalk along West Bayshore Road, from Edgewood Plaza to the East Palo Alto border.

The commission debated whether the funds should be used for historical rehabilitation or for the new sidewalk. Ultimately, commissioners recommended that the city survey the plaza's neighbors to see if they want the new sidewalk and then submit the survey results to the City Council for consideration.

Sand Hill last month already agreed to build a new structure in the same style as the demolished one but with new materials and greater compliance with modern building codes, alleviating any concerns about the plaza's historic character being preserved.

In considering the penalty, the commissioners were wading in uncharted waters. Though illegal demolitions aren't new to the city, no developer has ever destroyed a building that was supposed to be a component of a "public benefit" package, planner Elena Lee said. With public cynicism running high about the sufficiency of public benefits that developers offer in exchange for planned-community (PC) zoning, commissioners agreed that it's important for the developer's action to have consequences.

Sand Hill had been authorized by the city to build 10 single-family homes at the site and to provide public benefits that include a new grocery store and rehabilitation of two commercial buildings, one on its existing site and the other at a new location. Instead, construction workers demolished the building that was supposed to be moved.

On Wednesday night, John Tze of Sand Hill offered another mea culpa for the unauthorized demolition. Tze said he was as surprised as the neighbors when he learned about the demolition.

"My construction team and I take responsibility, as they are my team," Tze said. "They came to their own reasoning and jumped the gun."

Comments

No-Fan-Of-The-Planning-Commission
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 26, 2013 at 10:10 am
No-Fan-Of-The-Planning-Commission, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 26, 2013 at 10:10 am

[Portion removed.] If there were to be a penalty, then there should be a schedule of fees/fines that the Planning Department, and the City Council, would have hashed out over the years.

[Portion removed.]

Perhaps the best thing to do is to suspend the developer's permits for a few months, so that he incurs a loss of revenue on the project. Fining him just puts money in the City's pocket--which will disappear in a heartbeat.


Good riddance
Midtown
on Sep 26, 2013 at 10:35 am
Good riddance, Midtown
on Sep 26, 2013 at 10:35 am

Rather then punishing the developer, he should rewarded for ridding Palo Alto of this overrated eyesore. Obviously because of the attachment of Eichler's name to it, it is considered something historic and wonderful. Hardly the case. Good bye and good riddance.

"Perhaps the best thing to do is to suspend the developer's permits for a few months,"
Yes, lets put all the people that are working out of work in order to satisfy the whims of Eichler worshipers and historic building zealots
[Portion removed.]


Carrots & Sticks.
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 26, 2013 at 10:39 am
Carrots & Sticks., Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 26, 2013 at 10:39 am

This new precedent is just a gentle slap on the wrist when considered in context of what Sand Hill will gain by making this "error."--It's an incentive rather than a disincentive for future developers to follow suit.

Further, what replacement "public benefit" is the rather transparent Sand Hill "team" going to be required to deliver to the public?

I hope Council will insist on better compensation for this egregious misuse of public trust.


Sam
College Terrace
on Sep 26, 2013 at 10:48 am
Sam, College Terrace
on Sep 26, 2013 at 10:48 am

Like the previous writer hinted at, I think San Hill deliberately tore down the "historic" building because keeping it was more or less a joke, and it was willing to swallow a fine to accomplish this. Just because the name "Eichler" is attached to something doesn't make it worthy of saving.


Enough!
Charleston Gardens
on Sep 26, 2013 at 10:51 am
Enough!, Charleston Gardens
on Sep 26, 2013 at 10:51 am

Funny how no one on the City Council sees what's happening until after it's happened. Like uprooting the beautiful trees on California Avenue. This city is starting to look really generic.


Enough!
Charleston Gardens
on Sep 26, 2013 at 10:53 am
Enough!, Charleston Gardens
on Sep 26, 2013 at 10:53 am

And by the way, "Good Riddance?" Our family owns an Eichler from the 70's,. and we also rented on from the 50's, and both homes were quite lovely and actually have needed very little work. There's a very good reason why these homes are on real estate waiting lists.


Good Job
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 26, 2013 at 11:00 am
Good Job, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 26, 2013 at 11:00 am

Thank goodness Sand Hill got rid of that junk heap. They should be rewarded not fined.


Shameful for City and Sand Hill
Midtown
on Sep 26, 2013 at 11:07 am
Shameful for City and Sand Hill, Midtown
on Sep 26, 2013 at 11:07 am

Did the City give Sand Hill a wink and an estimate of the cost of this error in advance? We won't know, but they did give Sand Hill only a slight tap on the wrist for breaking the law. What ever works for Palo Alto is what goes. When the City installed a new water meter at our home and broke our pipe at the threads on "our side" of the meter, they fought hard not to cover the expense. Even though it was clearly their fault and cost us thousands in emergency repair and water loss, the City sent their lawyers in full force to avoid paying this expense. They probably gave each other a high-five when we chose to cover the bill rather than hire and lawyer and waste energy with a fight. Again, very Shameful City of Palo Alto! I am finding myself less and less proud to say I live in Palo Alto.


Jared Bernstein
Professorville
on Sep 26, 2013 at 11:15 am
Jared Bernstein, Professorville
on Sep 26, 2013 at 11:15 am

Agree that it was an eye-sore, but it gets tiresome when (over and over again) residents and contractors break their agreements with the city and are not punished. $94K seems small, when some guy with 7 pounds of marijuana gets three years in prison.


Kate
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 11:16 am
Kate, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 11:16 am

This is ridiculous. The place was a mess. A total disaster. Now it is starting to look very nice. Eichler covenant 'busy-bodies" please just get out of the way and understand there are thousands - and I mean thousands of people in that retail area - who should have had a say-so in all of this. Instead they were held hostage by a few self-appointed EWP shopping center queen bees. Hopefully the shopping center will succeed.Also it could have been remodeled years ago if Frank Benest and 'city staff' who don't live here interfered. Another example of Palo Altans taking back their city.


Hmmm
East Palo Alto
on Sep 26, 2013 at 11:34 am
Hmmm, East Palo Alto
on Sep 26, 2013 at 11:34 am

Kate - how did it happen that so few people were heard re the redevelopment of Edgewood? It did seem strange to only read quotes from the same people over & over again during the process. Was it a cabal of "historical" types that bullied everyone?


Kate
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 11:34 am
Kate, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 11:34 am

I should have said that this is another example of the need for Palo Altans to take back their city - from City Hall, the Planning Commission, the Architectural Review Board, and myopic 'neighborhood busybodies'.


Kate
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 11:34 am
Kate, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 11:34 am

I should have said that this is another example of the need for Palo Altans to take back their city - from City Hall, the Planning Commission, the Architectural Review Board, and myopic 'neighborhood busybodies'.


observer
Old Palo Alto
on Sep 26, 2013 at 11:54 am
observer, Old Palo Alto
on Sep 26, 2013 at 11:54 am

The developers just do whatever they want. Of course, they were aware of the Eichler building's requirement to remain standing. They played the odds and will probably win in the long term, money-wise. I also remember the trees of California St. and the ones lining the Alama Plaza. Those who live there were very upset and rightfully so.
Palo Alto: RIP.


Get them
Greater Miranda
on Sep 26, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Get them, Greater Miranda
on Sep 26, 2013 at 12:15 pm

If the penalty is not a financial hardship for the developer, the City of Palo Alto and all its residents better get ready for this behavior from ALL developers who think they'll just do what they want.
The punishment should hurt and hurt a lot. If it doesn't, like I said, open season with developers doing whatever they want, paying the wrist slap fine, while pocketing the benefits of their crime. Yes, I said crime.


sparty
another community
on Sep 26, 2013 at 12:19 pm
sparty, another community
on Sep 26, 2013 at 12:19 pm

It was hardly legendary. And run down years ago. Did anyone from Palo Alto actually go to the old junky $1 store, or the liquor store?

The place looked more like and illegal add-on to a garage than anything that had thought put into it.


sparty
another community
on Sep 26, 2013 at 12:30 pm
sparty, another community
on Sep 26, 2013 at 12:30 pm

Amazing all this outrage over something that had a benefit.

And the cries for severe punishment. Which will do what? So far the only thing the imbecile in city govt has proven their worth at is issuing permits for nail salons.

And the residents whose liberal politics lead to light sentences for real criminals--the kind that beat you down in the street and take your money-- allow them to be out on the street again soon to do more.

Are you afraid that a "light" punishment will cause another developer to clean up this city?

Please, take a deep breath, go home, and lock your doors. I wouldn't want any of "those people" from the city next door to hard you by parking on your side of the creek.


Adrianus
Midtown
on Sep 26, 2013 at 1:10 pm
Adrianus, Midtown
on Sep 26, 2013 at 1:10 pm

I love the phrase " ...but the money could be spent some other way." Oh sure, another non-acountable use?


good riddance
Midtown
on Sep 26, 2013 at 1:26 pm
good riddance, Midtown
on Sep 26, 2013 at 1:26 pm

Let's see, everyone is upset that this "historic" structure was torn down. However this "historic" structure was allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. Where were all the historic preservation/Eichler worshippers for all those years that it was decaying? All of a sudden they woke up?
Where was our city's historic czarina, Karen Holman, during this time. Was she too busy trying to usurp private property rights with her "everything is historic" plan to bother preserving this so-called historic structure, which apparently is all of a sudden so important to Palo Alto.
Eichler was a hack. His buildings are shoddy. The shopping center was a joke. Time to move on. Good riddance to the eyesore.


Yecccchhhhh
Old Palo Alto
on Sep 26, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Yecccchhhhh, Old Palo Alto
on Sep 26, 2013 at 2:39 pm

That building was butt-ugly. I lived in an Eichler for ten months when I first moved to PA. It actually rattled when the wind blew hard, due to its single-wall construction. The flat roof leaked, in spite of having been re-roofed multiple times in its history. it was cold in the winter, hot the summer, noisy always. The floor heating elements had not worked in decades, so wall heaters had to.be installed.

Why does everyone think Joe Eichler was a great architect? These houses were CHEESY! They were obviously not meant to be permanent structures, just temporary cheap housing. After renting one, I would never buy one, unless I. Could afford to bulldoze it and start over. Yeccccccchhhhhhhh!


Alan
Charleston Meadows
on Sep 26, 2013 at 2:53 pm
Alan, Charleston Meadows
on Sep 26, 2013 at 2:53 pm

> Perhaps the best thing to do is to suspend the developer's permits for a few months,
> so that he incurs a loss of revenue on the project.

A few months? After the current project is done, why not ban the company from working within Palo Alto for 10 years. It isn't about the build, it should be about keeping an agreement with the city.

I few months seems too short.


Good riddance
Midtown
on Sep 26, 2013 at 3:23 pm
Good riddance, Midtown
on Sep 26, 2013 at 3:23 pm

"After the current project is done, why not ban the company from working within Palo Alto for 10 years."
I guess, Alan, you are assuming that the company would want to have anything to do with Palo Alto again, given the hell he has been put through with the PA process, the Eichler worshipers and the covenant busybodies.
I doubt you could enforce a 10 year ban--there would be a lawsuit.
But nice to see how forgiving palo alto residents are--the ones that are yelling and screaming about this never make mistakes.
Get over it--it was a piece of junk, i.e. an Eichler


Marrol
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Sep 26, 2013 at 3:24 pm
Marrol, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Sep 26, 2013 at 3:24 pm

Penalties? We should give them an award for tearing down that eyesore in a timely fashion.


Greg
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 4:43 pm
Greg, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 4:43 pm

In their zeal to cut and paste the same things over and over whenever the word "Eichler" is mentioned, the usual posters forgot to mention that Eichlers "burn to the ground in minutes" and "were designed for low-level managers" and "were supposed to be temporary housing" and other silly and incorrect things.

But the next time a developer agrees to do something in your neighborhood, (which of course is surely filled with beautiful yet affordable homes that have a great sense of style and are solidly-built) and said developer "forgets" about it and does the opposite instead, I suppose the rest of us will be running to his defense because, after all, we know that developers have all of our needs in their hearts at all times.


resident
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 4:49 pm
resident, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 4:49 pm

The City was negligent in not determining the condition of the
Eichler building. The City also failed to exercise design control
over the Shell station over the last 40+ years and in its recent renovation which is the worst aspect by far of the Plaza and is
a further obstacle for the developer to overcome. The rebuilt building is in the same style as the original with some enhancements.
This developer is trying to create something viable here and save
the City from its own mistakes over many years.The fine should be minimal- $10,000.


Mr.Recycle
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 6:16 pm
Mr.Recycle, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 6:16 pm

@Greg - the thing with this case is that they are rebuilding it anyway. I'd agree with a punishment if there was an actual loss. But what is the loss here?


OPar
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 8:04 pm
OPar, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 8:04 pm

Good Riddance,

Sand Hill was *not* put through hell over the Edgewood development. It was actually one of the more straightforward deals I've seen in the city. SH wanted to put in more and higher homes originally. Turned out that the neighbors had a legal say in the matter. SH came back with fewer and lower town homes and everybody signed off on it.

This particular deal did *not* get bogged down in Palo Alto process and the supermarket is actual open and operational.

I do think $94,000 is too little of wrist slap. I don't care much about the building that was torn down, but I don't like the precedent.


Not an issue
Community Center
on Sep 26, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Not an issue, Community Center
on Sep 26, 2013 at 8:13 pm

Opar-- how long did the plaza sit empty and derelict? Too long. It took years to get this project started. And it wasn't the neighbors that had a say ( delayed the project) . It was a very small group that apparently controlled the covenant. Too bad they were not concerned about the Eichler structure that people are wringing their hands over.
$94,000 fine is $ 93,999 too much for the good deed performed by SH.


OPar
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 8:40 pm
OPar, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 8:40 pm

The covenant included the homeowners of the nearby Eichlers. So, yes, the neighbors.

That the center sat around unused doesn't mean that Sand Hill was hurt by the process. Sand Hill had a deal and the deal went fairly smoothly. Sand Hill broke its agreement and the $94K is a slap on the wrist--the profits from the sale of one town home will more than cover.

Leaving the building in question would not have impoverished Sand Hill, nor would it have stopped the development--so I think your gratitude here is misplaced.


hills
Esther Clark Park
on Sep 26, 2013 at 8:53 pm
hills, Esther Clark Park
on Sep 26, 2013 at 8:53 pm
Not an issue
Community Center
on Sep 26, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Not an issue, Community Center
on Sep 26, 2013 at 9:01 pm

Opar- note this story:
Web Link
The story is from 2008. That is 5 years. Meaning that plans by SH started way before that.
Note also that it was 3 neighbors that controlled the covenant and were talking about suing.
In other words SH was put through the usual PA process hell that has scared away developers and businesses from this town.


resident
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 9:01 pm
resident, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 26, 2013 at 9:01 pm

Don't transfer the abuses elsewhere in town to this site. Downtown
we have developers who try to max out sites taking advantage of
every possible loophole and leave the visual mess and parking mess
for everybody else to deal with. At Edgewood the original proposal
called for more homes but now we are down to 5 or 6 probably and the
developer brought in Fresh Market and is rebuilding the Eichler
buildings which is what was required although not originally
envisioned. Meanwhile the City does nothing to improve the appearance
of the Shell station which underwent a major renovation this year
because the staff has other priorities and doesn't see the need to get involved in this kind of thing at this gateway to Palo Alto
unlike the "Lytton Gateway". The developer is trying to make a contribution to the neighborhood working under the parameters he was given without sticking it to the rest of us.


Nancy
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 27, 2013 at 8:48 am
Nancy, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 27, 2013 at 8:48 am

Eichler ushered in a new era of home/business architecture that melded gardens with room interiors, a more-open floor plan, and increased natural light in interior space. As with all great ideas, improvements are made through time and research and experimentation. I think that Sand Hill should fund a very nice, permanent display that recognizes and honors Eichler's design genius and shows examples of its impact on architectural design in the past 50-plus years.


PA007
Community Center
on Sep 27, 2013 at 9:38 am
PA007, Community Center
on Sep 27, 2013 at 9:38 am

Sand hill is the unsung hero to the neighborhood. We alllove the new place.


Punish the criminals
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 27, 2013 at 12:20 pm
Punish the criminals, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 27, 2013 at 12:20 pm

Sand hill needs to be punished. They could have easily become the demon of the neighborhood if they thought it would make them money.
If you give them a pass now, you're telling them "No need to obey any of our city's requirements. Do what you want."
Enjoy the type city that will make. Heroes indeed. Selfish people who flaunted the law hoping to come out better in the end. Greed should not be rewarded, they need a HUUUUGE DEEEEEP fine.
C'mon PA! This is a chance to get some $ back into those coffers.
I just wish the exposed face of one of these "Developers" could be presented. That'd be great.


Yeah yeah, yeah
South of Midtown
on Sep 27, 2013 at 12:24 pm
Yeah yeah, yeah, South of Midtown
on Sep 27, 2013 at 12:24 pm

Eichlers are not even safe housing|. They have been known to burn to the ground in as little as seven minutes, according to PAFD. They were designed as temporary housing for returning veterans and their families, until they could get on their feet and buy a real house or bulldoze the Eichler and rebuild with a real house.

All of the unimproved ones should be demolished as unsafe, which is what this developer did with this derelict Eichler.


Jeff
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 27, 2013 at 12:49 pm
Jeff, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 27, 2013 at 12:49 pm

Realistically aren't @Recycle's thoughts headed the right direction? Whether you like Eichler buildings or not isn't the issue. It is what is being done to address the action in violation of the agreement.

Will there ever be any agreement by the community affected of what to do with the $94,000? Which community is most affected: history preservationists, nearby residents, ?

If SH builds a visually similar building they are trying to do what they can do to get close to the original agreement.


Crescent Park Dad
Crescent Park
on Sep 27, 2013 at 12:56 pm
Crescent Park Dad, Crescent Park
on Sep 27, 2013 at 12:56 pm

No to the Eichler altar of worship (@ Nancy). That's baloney to require a private business to do such a thing. You can put one up on your front lawn if you want - but that's your own doing, no one is making you do it.

Like it or not, the shopping center was not Eichler's best effort. As I have stated in other threads --- you cannot transfer home design elements in such a grand scale on large buildings. It just doesn't work --- and it didn't at Edgewood.

Honestly, once the replacement building is finished, will anyone know the difference? No.

Time to move on and to finish this now beautiful shopping center.


litebug
another community
on Sep 27, 2013 at 5:22 pm
litebug, another community
on Sep 27, 2013 at 5:22 pm

(former resident of Edgewood Plaza neighborhood)...

I went to Edgewood Plaza meetings with S.H. for at least 2 years or more before we moved to Oregon in 2008 so this thing has been dragging on for a long time. I did not trust the guy first meeting, still don't. He's slick, I'll give him that.

He was under "orders" not to demolish and he chose to defy them and do it anyway. Now people who are probably strong "law and order" types are excusing his law-breaking which shows them to be hypocrites and, as such, not worthy of attention.

There should be penalties more than a wrist slap for such arrogant behavior. Developers already run amok in Palo Alto, and have for decades, and the quality of life and beauty of the city have suffered greatly because of it. As far as I'm concerned, they were allowed to ruin the town with ugly McMansions, high density development out to the sidewalks, and other architectural atrocities.

I have never lived in an Eichler but Joseph Eichler was an icon of Mid-Century Modern, like it or not, and how many of today's designers of Palo Alto's McMansions and high density rabbit warrens are going to go down in the history books?

If the Eichler homes are so terrible why are they not only still around but cherished by many people? A lot of people on here sure aren't shy about displaying their ignorance and nastiness. Palo Alto has truly lost its soul and its way. Fortunately, there are some places that are more like Palo Alto used to be and I'm lucky to have found one.


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