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Fresh snags to delay opening of Mitchell Park Library

City threatens to terminate contractor after fire alarms fail three tests

Palo Alto's frustrating slog to rebuild the Mitchell Park Library and Community Center is facing a fresh wave of construction setbacks, pushing the estimated completion date of the beleaguered project to early spring of 2014.

The new problems, including faulty alarm systems, water leaks and broken pavers, represent the latest obstacle for the city's largest capital project, the cornerstone of the $76 million bond voters approved for library renovations in November 2008. Since construction began in 2010, the project has fallen behind schedule thanks to deficient work, failed inspections and bitter disputes between the city and its contractors.

According to a letter that Public Works Director Michael Sartor had sent to Tom Maxwell, president of the construction company Flintco Pacific, the project continues to face unexpected complications, mostly resulting from Flintco's defective work. The letter, which the City Council discussed and approved in a closed session Tuesday and which the city publicly released Wednesday morning, spells out more than a dozen problems at the city's most notorious construction site near the intersection of Middlefield Road and East Meadow Drive. These include roof leaks that have not been repaired, fans that haven't been properly installed and, most alarmingly, a fire-alarm system that has failed three tests. In an interview Wednesday, Sartor described the lattermost problem as "very disturbing and a big deal."

His letter to Maxwell also noted that Flintco has failed to install several required fire-extinguisher cabinets and restroom accessories.

"There is no excuse for Flintco's lack of effort to correct these problems," Sartor wrote. "Flintco's current level of effort is unacceptable."

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As a result of these problems, the city no longer expects the project to open to the public by the end of the year. In his letter, Sartor wrote that he expects Flintco to correct these problems and issue a "temporary certificate of occupancy" for the library building by Nov. 27. This would allow staff to move into and start equipping the new building. Even in this best-case scenario, the process for getting the library ready for usage would take a few months, pushing the earliest possible opening date to somewhere around February or March.

Yet the rocky saga of Mitchell Park gives few reasons for the city to expect a best-case scenario. While much progress has been made in the past few months, pushing the completion level to about 96 percent as of early October, many problems remain unsolved. According to Sartor's letter, Flintco has failed to test and balance the heating and air conditioning systems in the new building, a key step for the building to pass inspections.

To compound the issue, the problem of insufficient staffing that Flintco seemingly resolved last summer is once again plaguing the project. In June, after the city threatened default proceedings, Flintco upped its workforce and finally made progress on the library building. In recent weeks, however, the number of workers on the site dipped again despite the long list of things to do. Sartor notes that the personnel gains "now appear to have been lost" and argues that there is "no apparent reason for Flintco reducing the number of personnel working on the Project."

Sartor's letter notes that the average subcontractor labor has dropped to about 15 to 16 workers per day, while Flintco's average manpower is four to five workers, many of whom do not work for an entire shift.

"There has been little effort to address the large number of defective work issues that have been identified," Sartor wrote.

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In his letter, Sartor requests a "firm commitment" from Flintco to have "temporary certificate occupancy" for the library building by Nov. 27 and for the community center by the end of the year. He said Flintco officials have assured him that they will meet these deadlines.

"If Flintco performs, then we would have temporary occupancy by the end of the year for the whole project and then we'd be able able to open the buildings to the public a few months after that, in the February, March timeframe," Sartor told the Weekly on Wednesday. "Assuming Flintco performs. That's the question."

In his letter to Flintco, Sartor wrote that "continued lack of diligence of Flintco's part is likely to result in termination of the Contract." This, however, would carry its own consequences for the city. If Palo Alto has to switch to a different contractor, the timeline for the project would be extended even further and the library likely won't open until summer 2014 at the earliest.

"If they don't perform, we're probably talking about a couple of months additionally," Sartor said.

So far, the city had spent about $28 million on the construction project, Sartor told the Weekly. It has about $1 million remaining for construction in its contingency budget. In addition, the city had begun to retain 10 percent of its payments to Flintco and now has about $2.2 million available in retention payments.

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In his letter, Sartor noted that Flintco had promised to have the library ready for occupancy within a few weeks, a milestone that now seems unlikely to be reached.

"Representatives of the City have come and inspected the progress of work," Sartor wrote. "There are many areas that Flintco and its subcontractors are working on, but Flintco appears either unable or unwilling to commit an adequate amount of personnel to complete the Project any time soon."

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Fresh snags to delay opening of Mitchell Park Library

City threatens to terminate contractor after fire alarms fail three tests

Palo Alto's frustrating slog to rebuild the Mitchell Park Library and Community Center is facing a fresh wave of construction setbacks, pushing the estimated completion date of the beleaguered project to early spring of 2014.

The new problems, including faulty alarm systems, water leaks and broken pavers, represent the latest obstacle for the city's largest capital project, the cornerstone of the $76 million bond voters approved for library renovations in November 2008. Since construction began in 2010, the project has fallen behind schedule thanks to deficient work, failed inspections and bitter disputes between the city and its contractors.

According to a letter that Public Works Director Michael Sartor had sent to Tom Maxwell, president of the construction company Flintco Pacific, the project continues to face unexpected complications, mostly resulting from Flintco's defective work. The letter, which the City Council discussed and approved in a closed session Tuesday and which the city publicly released Wednesday morning, spells out more than a dozen problems at the city's most notorious construction site near the intersection of Middlefield Road and East Meadow Drive. These include roof leaks that have not been repaired, fans that haven't been properly installed and, most alarmingly, a fire-alarm system that has failed three tests. In an interview Wednesday, Sartor described the lattermost problem as "very disturbing and a big deal."

His letter to Maxwell also noted that Flintco has failed to install several required fire-extinguisher cabinets and restroom accessories.

"There is no excuse for Flintco's lack of effort to correct these problems," Sartor wrote. "Flintco's current level of effort is unacceptable."

As a result of these problems, the city no longer expects the project to open to the public by the end of the year. In his letter, Sartor wrote that he expects Flintco to correct these problems and issue a "temporary certificate of occupancy" for the library building by Nov. 27. This would allow staff to move into and start equipping the new building. Even in this best-case scenario, the process for getting the library ready for usage would take a few months, pushing the earliest possible opening date to somewhere around February or March.

Yet the rocky saga of Mitchell Park gives few reasons for the city to expect a best-case scenario. While much progress has been made in the past few months, pushing the completion level to about 96 percent as of early October, many problems remain unsolved. According to Sartor's letter, Flintco has failed to test and balance the heating and air conditioning systems in the new building, a key step for the building to pass inspections.

To compound the issue, the problem of insufficient staffing that Flintco seemingly resolved last summer is once again plaguing the project. In June, after the city threatened default proceedings, Flintco upped its workforce and finally made progress on the library building. In recent weeks, however, the number of workers on the site dipped again despite the long list of things to do. Sartor notes that the personnel gains "now appear to have been lost" and argues that there is "no apparent reason for Flintco reducing the number of personnel working on the Project."

Sartor's letter notes that the average subcontractor labor has dropped to about 15 to 16 workers per day, while Flintco's average manpower is four to five workers, many of whom do not work for an entire shift.

"There has been little effort to address the large number of defective work issues that have been identified," Sartor wrote.

In his letter, Sartor requests a "firm commitment" from Flintco to have "temporary certificate occupancy" for the library building by Nov. 27 and for the community center by the end of the year. He said Flintco officials have assured him that they will meet these deadlines.

"If Flintco performs, then we would have temporary occupancy by the end of the year for the whole project and then we'd be able able to open the buildings to the public a few months after that, in the February, March timeframe," Sartor told the Weekly on Wednesday. "Assuming Flintco performs. That's the question."

In his letter to Flintco, Sartor wrote that "continued lack of diligence of Flintco's part is likely to result in termination of the Contract." This, however, would carry its own consequences for the city. If Palo Alto has to switch to a different contractor, the timeline for the project would be extended even further and the library likely won't open until summer 2014 at the earliest.

"If they don't perform, we're probably talking about a couple of months additionally," Sartor said.

So far, the city had spent about $28 million on the construction project, Sartor told the Weekly. It has about $1 million remaining for construction in its contingency budget. In addition, the city had begun to retain 10 percent of its payments to Flintco and now has about $2.2 million available in retention payments.

In his letter, Sartor noted that Flintco had promised to have the library ready for occupancy within a few weeks, a milestone that now seems unlikely to be reached.

"Representatives of the City have come and inspected the progress of work," Sartor wrote. "There are many areas that Flintco and its subcontractors are working on, but Flintco appears either unable or unwilling to commit an adequate amount of personnel to complete the Project any time soon."

Comments

Overdue
Greenmeadow
on Nov 13, 2013 at 3:31 pm
Overdue, Greenmeadow
on Nov 13, 2013 at 3:31 pm

Why am I not at all surprised? I hope the city's 'empty threat' convinces the contractor into fulfilling their obligations. (It won't )
This is a perfect case study of how not to build a public library.
I would write a book about it... but there's no library to put it in.


Resident
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 13, 2013 at 3:37 pm
Resident, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 13, 2013 at 3:37 pm

Can't help it, I am still laughing.

Anyone know how Main library is getting on? Will it win the race and open first? Or is it having problems too?


Resident
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 13, 2013 at 3:38 pm
Resident, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 13, 2013 at 3:38 pm

Oh, and the children we were told to remember when voting? They are about to graduate college!


Ken
Midtown
on Nov 13, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Ken, Midtown
on Nov 13, 2013 at 4:16 pm

Reminds me of Obamacare.


Nonsense
Midtown
on Nov 13, 2013 at 4:24 pm
Nonsense, Midtown
on Nov 13, 2013 at 4:24 pm

Really, ken, how does the Mitchell park library remind you of Obamacare? Or is that what rush Limbaugh told you on the radio this morning.


Anonymous
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 13, 2013 at 4:40 pm
Anonymous, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 13, 2013 at 4:40 pm

Please don't occupy this building before the first good hard rain. Why incur even more damages when water damages the interior?


Another Side
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 13, 2013 at 7:25 pm
Another Side, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 13, 2013 at 7:25 pm

There are 3 sides to every story. My son worked for Fintco for many years and had nothing but great things to say about this company. The only reason that he left was because his wife's company transfew her (with a huge promotion) to another part of the country. Fintco has a good record over the years and I would love to hear their side. Remember, this was the city's first building from the ground up (not remodel) in over 30 years. Just having to deal with the city on our remodel was very disappointing in their professionalism.


Midtowner
Midtown
on Nov 13, 2013 at 8:35 pm
Midtowner, Midtown
on Nov 13, 2013 at 8:35 pm

When was it originally scheduled to be completed? Was it in the summer of 2011 or the summer of 2012? In any case it will be 2 to 3 years late. Astounding. Especially for what we get. It is so ugly. I dearly miss our understated, elegant building we had before, as well as the nice landscaping and many trees.

We could have upgraded and strengthened as well as added on to what we had before. But no, we had to do the American thing: destroy it all and start from scratch. With the terrible result we now have. A monstrous eyesore years behind schedule.


Terry
Midtown
on Nov 13, 2013 at 10:20 pm
Terry, Midtown
on Nov 13, 2013 at 10:20 pm

Oh, I'm so surprised.

Ever notice how incompetent governments are at getting things done.


Confused
another community
on Nov 14, 2013 at 6:39 am
Confused, another community
on Nov 14, 2013 at 6:39 am

How many Libraries does this city need? Isn't most everything at your fingertips and a keyboard swipe away? I would hate to see anyone have to walk a few blocks to go to the next library... Palo Alto currently has 7 libraries posted on their web site plus a virtual library.

Here are a few stats:

Palo Alto population in 2012 was 66,363 which equates to 9,480 per library
San Jose population in 2012 was 987,765 which equates to 42,729 per library
Berkely population in 2012 was 115,403 whis equates to 16,486 per library

I didn't factor in the virtual or mobile libraries from each city. I understand the need for knowledge but at what price do we need to draw the line. With modern technology and Palo Alto being the tip of the spear when it comes to technology, one would think we could do a better job for the buck...


businessdecision
Menlo Park
on Nov 14, 2013 at 7:04 am
businessdecision, Menlo Park
on Nov 14, 2013 at 7:04 am

don't be Confused any longer.

Here's one reason not to be confused: you don't want the government knowing about everything you looked into. Physical vs virtual, privacy vs everybody knowing.

Other reasons have to do with learning by browsing.


Ken
Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 7:37 am
Ken, Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 7:37 am

"how does the Mitchell park library remind you of Obamacare?"

I thought it was fairly obvious:

Overpromised, overpriced, overdue ... and it will be declared a success, by its promoters, no matter what.


Sharon and Samuel Baume
Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 7:52 am
Sharon and Samuel Baume, Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 7:52 am

"Overpromised, overpriced, overdue ... and it will be declared a success, by its promoters, no matter what."
Not sure, Ken, why you feel the need to inject your [portion removed] politics into this discussion. But your comparison is bogus--the ACA is brand new--just over a month. Of course there will be glitches--you need time to fix them. ANd do not forget how the republicans have tried rom day one to cut funding and destroy the ACA. We will see in the long run what the verdict will be. [Portion removed.]

Now to the topic at hand--the library. Everyone is blaming the contractor. We have to see what the whole story was. I believe the Weekly did a piece a number of months ago on this and it appeared that the city never had a final set of blueprints available and they were constantly making changes.
Perhaps the weekly, once the library opens, can do an in depth piece looking at this whole fiasco. I am sure the city is not blameless


SteveU
Registered user
Barron Park
on Nov 14, 2013 at 8:29 am
SteveU, Barron Park
Registered user
on Nov 14, 2013 at 8:29 am

Can we leave the artistic style comments out. We will never agree.

Focus on quality of construction (or lack thereof).
Having leaks and books do not mix. I agree, do not occupy until AFTER a successful Heavy rainfall leak/water damage free report.

Does the fact that Palo Alto has many unique building codes, leads to more failed inspections? Did the contractors run into conflicting inspection requirements?


Joe
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 14, 2013 at 9:35 am
Joe, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 14, 2013 at 9:35 am

> Does the fact that Palo Alto has many unique building codes,
> leads to more failed inspections?

Is this really true?

The continuing saga of this debacle, as reported in the local media, seems to turn around the fact that the plans that were bid on could not be constructed without a goodly number of change orders to augment failures of the architects, as well as all of those checking plans. The City has not been very forthcoming with the public about the needs for these change orders. Having both a construction company, and a second construction management company, in charge of the construction has left the project with a very convoluted management structure. We have a 1) City Manager, 2) Director of Public Works, 3) City Project Manager, 4) Flintco Project Manager, and Turner Construction Project Manager (although Turner may be gone now). So--who is in charge? No one who works for the City seems to be stepping up and saying: "the buck stops here". Subcontractors have claimed that Flintco has not been paying, and/or the City has not been paying.

There will be plenty of blame to go around--but it's unlikey the City will ever provide the public any real insight into their handling of this fiasco.


John Galt
Fairmeadow
on Nov 14, 2013 at 10:33 am
John Galt, Fairmeadow
on Nov 14, 2013 at 10:33 am
Another Million dollars
Community Center
on Nov 14, 2013 at 10:46 am
Another Million dollars, Community Center
on Nov 14, 2013 at 10:46 am

Not to mention the Library Directors and the Library Foundation who promised us the moon and the biggest bonanza.
Adding insult to injury, on this week's Council Consent Agenda:
Approval of a Contract Amendment with Envisionware, Inc., for an Amount Not to Exceed $463,000 for the Automatic Materials Handling System at the Main Library, For a Total Contract Not Exceeding $1,000,000 for the Main and Mitchell Park Libraries


Bill
Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 10:56 am
Bill, Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 10:56 am

What a huge waste of public money! Now the City is pushing for a new public safety building. How much will that cost? and how long will that take to build? Heads should roll at City Hall for this mess, but alas this is government where accountability goes to die.


Wayne Martin
Fairmeadow
on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:11 am
Wayne Martin, Fairmeadow
on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:11 am

> Approval of a Contract Amendment with Envisionware, Inc.,
> for an Amount Not to Exceed $463,000 for the
> Automatic Materials Handling System at the Main Library,
> For a Total Contract Not Exceeding $1,000,000 for the Main
> and Mitchell Park Libraries

At one level, this is good news--since it means that the library staff has finally, after more than a decade, managed to see some what to use automatic book handing equipment to (possibly) reduce staff requirements, and ultimately reduce the number of job-related injuries.

Unfortunately, the world has changed. It is difficult to believe that books will continue to be the way people read in the future. For the cost of this equipment (and this is not likely to be the total cost), the taxpayers could have purchased 30,000 to 40,000 kindles, or other tablet-type reading devices. For the cost of outfitting any "computer lab" in the library, the City could have created a mesh network for the whole city--giving everyone a kindle (if they wanted one) and access to the Internet from just about anywhere they happened to be in the City.

Besides the bungling of the management of this project--the cost of running the facility over the coming decades will run into the hundreds of millions of dollars--while hundreds of millions of books, newspapers, videos, radio programs and music can be obtained on-line.

Maybe this automatic handling equipment will be used for a few years. But it's difficult to believe that the facility will be used by our children in the future, as the promoters of this behemoth promised the voters.


Dan Tuerk
Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:13 am
Dan Tuerk, Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:13 am

The saga of the Winchester Mystery Library continues......


Elizabeth
Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:29 am
Elizabeth, Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:29 am

Perhaps the world will take the path suggested by Wayne, but as a passionate reader for the past 6 decades, I suspect if I'd taken the path of the Kindle, my eyesight would have gone long ago, or I might have electrocuted myself out of existence when I dropped the Kindle into the bathtub.


Ken
Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:33 am
Ken, Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:33 am

" Of course there will be glitches--you need time to fix them"

Glitches? Train wrecks are not mere glitches. Botched planning, weak leadership, convenient apologies do not make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Mitchell Park library and Obamacare have much in common. Throw in high speed rail, if you wish. When government first chooses to deceive, it will be relieved (of duty)...the next time.


GG
Green Acres
on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:38 am
GG, Green Acres
on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:38 am

We got what we deserve, if we keep the Curent Council, City manager, and lawuer


Brian
Evergreen Park
on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:42 am
Brian, Evergreen Park
on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:42 am

When I was in Project Management I learned a very important lesson. The construction company will never perform if they are losing money on the job. Pony up the funds, get rid of the people (construction management) that are not performing and keep it out of court. It will be cheaper and quicker even though the City may be right.

I'm looking forward to using that new building!


Sharon and Samuel Baume
Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:42 am
Sharon and Samuel Baume, Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:42 am

"Glitches? Train wrecks are not mere glitches. Botched planning, weak leadership, convenient apologies do not make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. "
Coming from someone who supports the republican's undercutting of the ACA at every turn. How unamerican.

Web Link
"However, they also concede the technology problems will likely get resolved, as promised again Wednesday by Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius at a Senate Finance Committee hearing.
The broader GOP focus is on their dislike for the Affordable Care Act, passed in 2010 with no Republican support and upheld last year by the Supreme Court."

ANyway, ken try to stay on topic. [Portion removed.]


Wayne Martin
Fairmeadow
on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:52 am
Wayne Martin, Fairmeadow
on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:52 am

> I suspect if I'd taken the path of the Kindle,
> my eyesight would have gone long ago

All of the digital reading devices provide the user with customizable point-size controls to allow them to adjust the size of the charters on the screen to their personal comfort level. This control is so flexible that Kindle/E-book users who have visual impairments which have previously required that they depend on a public source for large-print reading materials can now have access to anything that can be downloaded onto a digital device.

Example:

E-book Readers Help Visually Impaired:
Web Link

Andy Brown’s Vision Impaired Kindle:
Web Link

In addition, Kindles have added a text-to-voice capability that allows people who are blind access to reading material that has not necessarily been recorded into an audio-book format. (Note—some copyright issues have emerged from this feature, so the availability of text-to-speech on Kindles might be questionable for all books available on the Amazon web-site.

Sites like the Internet Archive now provide Kindle formatted e-books, so people are not restricted to just Amazon sources. Other digital formats, such as provided by Sony, open up the world of digitized reading far more than that offered by Amazon.

It’s a shame that people living in Palo Alto, claiming to be so well educated, would not know the capabilities of the technology that has, in large part, been developed here in the Silicon Valley (e-Ink, the material used for the screens on most e-book readers, was originally developed at Xerox PARC.)

Claims about losing one’s eye sight by shifting to digital reading devices is really very hard to believe. Yet, such claims persist in this town.


Silly
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Nov 14, 2013 at 12:16 pm
Silly, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Nov 14, 2013 at 12:16 pm

Re the E-books, funny how there's never a wait to reserve E-book titles while there's always a huge waiting list to reserve the same titles as real books.

That being said, the city should never have started work on the Main Library until Mitchell Park was finished in the same way they shouldn't do street repairs to parallel streets.


Ken
Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 12:17 pm
Ken, Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 12:17 pm

[Portion removed.] The so-called 'Friends of Libraries' just wanted to charge forward, despite the fact that a previous head of the libraries in PA was forced out, because she wanted to consolidate. With 'friends' like this, the libraries don't need any more enemies. This train wreck is just one more example of PA government exuberance and wacko planning.

[Portion removed.]


Josh
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 14, 2013 at 12:21 pm
Josh, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 14, 2013 at 12:21 pm

Most cites the size of Palo Alto have 2-3 libraries. Times have changed. I'm sorry, but we don't need 7 libraries! I would like to see the data on how much each one is used vs the cost of staffing and maintaining the building.


pat
Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 12:24 pm
pat, Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 12:24 pm

> "No one who works for the City seems to be stepping up and saying: 'the buck stops here'"

Too true! You should know by now that the city never holds anyone accountable for anything. In fact, City Manager Keene claims the Mitchell Park fiasco as one of his “Key Achievements” in the 2014 budget: “Completed 75% of the construction on Mitchell Park Library and Community Center.”


Resident
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 14, 2013 at 12:25 pm
Resident, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 14, 2013 at 12:25 pm

Did anyone else get an email from the library with a survey on library usage?

It will be interesting to see what the results of this survey show. I hope that the Weekly will publish the results to see what people surveyed really think. The library bond vote was not a green light for them to do anything they wanted, just to improve the library building that we already had.


Shirley
Barron Park
on Nov 14, 2013 at 12:36 pm
Shirley, Barron Park
on Nov 14, 2013 at 12:36 pm

Is this what happens when governments take the lowest bidder on a construction project?


MadamPresident
Old Palo Alto
on Nov 14, 2013 at 12:50 pm
MadamPresident, Old Palo Alto
on Nov 14, 2013 at 12:50 pm

@ Josh, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood

"Most cites the size of Palo Alto have 2-3 libraries. Times have changed. I'm sorry, but we don't need 7 libraries!"

we don't have 7, we have 4+1 children's Web Link

I had no idea that there was a CT Branch - that one propably needs to go? & Children's Library needs to be moved to the new Mitchell Park's (when it's ready :)


Nayeli
Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 12:54 pm
Nayeli, Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 12:54 pm

So, the library that voters decided should be built in 2008 will not open until 2014?

Voters in Santa Clara agreed to build the 49ers new stadium in 2010. Money was secured a year later. Construction began in 2012. It will officially open in July 2014.

When a 75,000 seat state-of-the-art stadium can be designed and built in a shorter time span than a library, then something is seriously wrong with this picture.


Joe
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 14, 2013 at 1:00 pm
Joe, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 14, 2013 at 1:00 pm

> Did anyone else get an email from the library
> with a survey on library usage?

No .. in the past, before the last vote that authorized this project, the library commissioned at least two different surveys, which were conducted over the phone. At the time of the last survey (five or six years ago), it was noted to the library director that no cell phone users were included in this survey--which excluded a large number of people in town, skewing the results to reflect the opinions, and practices, of older people.

The possibility of the use of email, or on-line surveys, by the library was never suggested by the library, or the city council, at that time.

Almost all of the data that people use to justify library use in Palo Alto is not very well researched.


Sylvia
Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 1:09 pm
Sylvia, Midtown
on Nov 14, 2013 at 1:09 pm

What a sad, distressing string of comments! It's obvious Mitchell Park Library construction has not gone well. From what I've read, it appears the General Contractor has done a poor job. But lots of what I read here is bashing the whole idea of building a new library, especially the anti-book folks. I am a HEAVY library user who lives in Midtown and is DYING for my local library to re-open. So I was obviously disappointed to find out it won't be this year.

But I don't see any reason to rain abuse on City of Palo Alto officials. I will say, however, that perhaps the best course might have been cancelling the contract of Flintco for non-performance a long time ago. But can't we ascribe any good motives to city officials? Maybe they thought cancellation would cause even further delays.

As to the screeds about books dying out, I've read plenty of articles to the contrary. In my opinion, anyone who says books won't be around in the future is not a real reader. I can't even count all the wonderful books I've read in my life that I had no idea even existed until I browsed the New Books area at Palo Alto libraries and something caught my eye.


Joe
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 14, 2013 at 1:26 pm
Joe, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 14, 2013 at 1:26 pm

> But I don't see any reason to rain abuse on City of Palo Alto officials.

Perhaps you have been too busy reading books that have been paid for by other people to read the free newspapers that have reported on this affair. If memory serves, some large number of change orders have been issued--which the construction company claims were necessary to actually build the building. Might you, as a voracious reader, have any idea whose job it is to design the building, and to insure that the design can be built?

Well--it might come as a shock to you that that responsibility for the design falls on the people who want the building built--in this case, the planning department, the city manager, and the city council. It's their job to insure that the project is viable, and that there is sufficient funds available to insure that all the parties are paid.

What makes you believe that the construction company--be it Flintco, or any other outfit, has any responsibility in generating the design, and insuring that it can be built? Yes, once the construction company signs the contract, it does assume a lot of responsibility--but once it turns out the the plans are flawed, then some of that responsibility falls back on the owner (in this case the city) to agree to the change orders, to back out of the contract, incuring whatever losses that implies, or to fix the plans so that the contractor can continue.

And then there is the issue of who is actually paying the bills. If the contractor is billing the city, and then not paying his subcontractors that is one thing. However, if the city is responsible for paying the subcontractors--that is another. So, do you know who is responsible for paying the bills? Does the money go to Flintco, or to the subcontractors directly. Can you assure us, as a big-time reader, that all of the bills that are the responsibility of the city have been paid in full, and on time?

As noted above, there is a lot of blame to go around here--and no one on the city's side seems to be standing up and saying that the city is in any way responsible.

That's what people are finding themselves with not having much good to say about those associated with this project on the city side.


neighbor
Barron Park
on Nov 14, 2013 at 1:38 pm
neighbor, Barron Park
on Nov 14, 2013 at 1:38 pm

I spent many months trying to explain to the City Council the problems we have with upzoning of the Maybell site. I think I now have a better feeling for why so many city run projects end up like this.

In this city council you have a set of individuals who never investigate anything very much. They rely on the advice of the city staff who apparently tailors the reports so that the council likes it. I got to know Tim Wong, the senior planner, a little bit. Though a very pleasant person he doesn't have a single ounce of investigative sense and curiosity in him. He just accepted everything and anything PAHC told the city and totally ignored facts. He just parroted what PAHC said. I once found out, in total astonishment, that he never visited the Stevenson House or looked at their web site or talked to anyone there but he kept on asserting that Stevenson House and the Maybell apartments were the same kind of senior housing and they have the same parking needs!

If you do a construction project in your house with the level of "home work" the city staff and the council do you could be sure that you will end up with a bad contractor and miscalculated costs and all that.

I hope next year we can elect intelligent individuals who really care about the city and who are willing to spend the time and do what it takes to do a good job.


Emily Renzel
Crescent Park
on Nov 14, 2013 at 1:42 pm
Emily Renzel, Crescent Park
on Nov 14, 2013 at 1:42 pm

Who is the architect responsible for designing this nightmare? It's very sad that south Palo Alto has had to endure not only the loss of their Community Center and Library for several years, but now have to look at this abomination for decades to come with it's gaudy yellow trim. Doesn't this City have an Architectural Review Board???? They must have been out-to-lunch when this project came through.


Gotta Cry
Greenmeadow
on Nov 14, 2013 at 2:16 pm
Gotta Cry, Greenmeadow
on Nov 14, 2013 at 2:16 pm

The contractor is incompetent.

Period. End of story.

The City should have pulled the performance bond a year ago and retained a competent contractor to complete the project.

Leaving the architectural aesthetic design aside, there may be some component of questionable construction documents involved...but the VAST majority of the construction problems are with Flintco.

Reading through the City's consultant's reports and sitting in on the counsel discussions...Flintco and its subcontractors have failed to perform as required at EVERY STEP of the project.

If you take glee in saying this is a Palo Alto problem...you are probably just blowing hot air. All publicly funded projects will require open bidding. If your only selection criteria is a GC license, performance bond and low bid...this is the inevitable result.

Again...the City should pull the bond and retain a qualified contractor to complete the project. This is why a performance bond is required.

Oh yes...ths project has nothing whatsoever to do with Obamacare, Mayfield, Alma Plaza or any other windmill you wish to tilt at.


Palo Altan
Old Palo Alto
on Nov 14, 2013 at 2:22 pm
Palo Altan, Old Palo Alto
on Nov 14, 2013 at 2:22 pm
Paly Alum
Registered user
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 15, 2013 at 7:35 am
Paly Alum, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
Registered user
on Nov 15, 2013 at 7:35 am

Why do they have to have BOTH big libraries closed at the same time? There is no place to study for my children. The downtown library doesn't have enough parking. Thanks, Einsteins.


Left of Boom
Registered user
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 15, 2013 at 7:43 am
Left of Boom, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
Registered user
on Nov 15, 2013 at 7:43 am

It's extremely short sighted to think people don't read books or use the library. The library probably has usage statistics and, except for the inconvenience caused by the construction, book usage is probably not down even with the addition of eBooks. Though I don't have these statistics, Mitchell Park is probably the most heavily used library in Palo Alto.


SteveU
Registered user
Barron Park
on Nov 15, 2013 at 11:47 am
SteveU, Barron Park
Registered user
on Nov 15, 2013 at 11:47 am

Elizabeth
You can drop a Kindle into an occupied bath without the fear of electrocution.

The highest voltage is less than 5 volts. Additionally, Electrocution requires your heart or brain be between the power supply terminals and the voltage be high enough to cause at least 1 mili-ampere to flow in that high resistance path.
What you end up with is a ruined Kindle, about the same end result if you dropped a printed book into the drink.

older Kindles do not have back lights like computer screens, so they tend to be easy on the eyes.

Unfortunately, I understand why Main started their remodel before MP reopened.
The Bid was based on the target delivery date. Every day of delay increases cost. We already have enough of those at MP :/


pat
Registered user
Midtown
on Nov 15, 2013 at 2:17 pm
pat, Midtown
Registered user
on Nov 15, 2013 at 2:17 pm

Library data can be found at:
Web Link

Back in 2008, when the library bond was passed, actual data from door counters at the branches showed that only 9.8% of all library visitors in FY 2007 went to the Downtown branch and only 6.3% visited College Terrace.

The 2007 library audit concluded – as one would expect – that more branches cost more: larger staff and more money for operating costs like maintenance, gardening, utilities, etc.


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