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Lane reduction eyed for stretch of Middlefield Road in Palo Alto

City council to consider 'road diet' between Lytton Avenue and Menlo Park

After years of collisions, congestion and complaints, a bustling, three-block stretch of Middlefield Road near the Menlo Park border may soon be in for a dramatic redesign, including a reduction from four lanes to three.

The proposal, which the City Council will consider Monday night, is the culmination of dozens of car accidents and heavy lobbying from residents along Middlefield, who have long maintained that the deteriorating traffic conditions have created dangerous conditions in their neighborhood. A group of residents has been meeting with city staff in recent months to discuss potential fixes. Most recently, the collaboration netted two alternatives, each of which would include as its centerpiece what's known as a "road diet."

One thing that everyone agrees on is that the status quo isn't working. According to the city's traffic study, the area is badly congested during commute hours, with all three Middlefield Road intersections in the area functioning at levels of service D, E or F during the busy times (the three lowest grades). On Middlefield and Hawthorne Avenue, which has a level of service F, cars face delays of 126.9 seconds (a little over 2 minutes) during the morning peak. Middlefield and Everett Avenue works as an an F during the evening peak, with delays of 57.9 seconds.

While crawling cars present one problem, speeding cars present another. During off-peak hours, the speed on Middlefield -- where the speed limit is 25 miles per hour -- is typically between 31 and 34 miles per hour (neighbors report seeing drivers traveling at 50 mph or higher). Collisions are common here given the high volume of cars, including an estimated 18,000 on a typical weekday, and the poor visibility for drivers turning at intersections. Palo Alto staff cited a California Highway Patrol database that showed about 33 reported collisions on this three-block segment between 2009 and 2013. Residents believe the number is far higher because many minor accidents aren't reported. Some have taken photos every time cars collide or a vehicle crashes into a yard.

According to Palo Alto's traffic staff, most collisions were "caused by right-of-way violations and the prevailing crash type was angle or broadside."

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"Several have resulted in injuries and/or have encroached onto the sidewalk area or private properties, creating safety and quality of life concerns for the residents that live and travel along Middlefield Road," the report states.

Some improvements are already in place. In 2015, the city began prohibiting left turns onto Middlefield from Hawthorne and Everett. During peak hours, cars are also prohibited from going straight across Middlefield and must turn right. This, however, did not solve the problem. In fact, staff reports that the number of eastbound left-hand turns during the evening peak traffic hour at Middlefield and Hawthorne actually went up from 42 to 57 after the change.

Now, the city is preparing to take things to the next level. Under the first of two alternatives known as 7A, the section of Middlefield Road between Lytton and Palo Alto avenues would be redesigned so that instead of two lanes of traffic going in each direction, there would be one, along with a left-turn lane in the middle. In the southbound direction, the single lane would become two lanes between Everett and Lytton avenues, while the northbound direction would remain a single lane.

Known as a "road diet," the switch from four lanes to three aims to bring the numbers down. According to the Federal Highway Administration, a road diet results in a crash reduction of 19 to 47 percent. It also lessens the difference between vehicle speeds, improves access for all road uses and integrates the roadway "into surrounding uses that results in an enhanced quality of life," according to a report from the Department of Planning and Community Environment.

"A key feature of a Road Diet is that it allows reclaimed space to be allocated for other uses, such as turn lanes, bus lanes, pedestrian refuge islands, bike lanes, sidewalks, bus shelters, parking or landscaping," the report states.

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Under the second proposal known as 7B, the number of lanes is reduced from two to one in the northbound direction. Southbound, however, the two-lane configuration would remain along the entire stretch. In the northbound direction, there would be a single lane for through traffic and a left-turn lane that would give local residents the ability to turn into their driveways. Unlike in 7A, this alternative does not include bike lanes. Both proposals include median barriers on Middlefield to prevent left turns from Everett and Hawthorne avenues.

John Guislin, a Middlefield Road resident who has been leading the charge for improvements, told the Weekly that for residents in his area, 7A is clearly the preferred choice "by a huge margin." By creating a buffer zone between the sidewalk and the roadway, the design makes it easier for drivers taking, or turning onto, Middlefield to see other cars.

"Accidents can happen because people edge out to look if they can turn," Guislin told the Weekly. "Having the lanes that create a 5-foot-wide buffer zone each way improves the visibility."

After grading all nine alternatives, including the ones that were previously proposed and then either revised or rejected, the group of neighbors gave 7A a grade of A-. Option 7B, which does not include curb buffers and which maintains two lanes in the southbound direction, scored a D.

"It only slows the northbound traffic but not the southbound," Guislin said of 7B. "It doesn't improve driveway exits or access and it doesn't improve the sight lines."

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In its report to the council, the group noted that the traffic volumes on Middlefield have almost doubled since 2013, when there were about 10,000 vehicles per day.

"This increase in traffic has brought increased accidents, increased average speed, increased congestion and significantly reduced quality of life," the neighbors wrote. "People feel unsafe in their front yards and on the sidewalk."

The council will consider both configurations Monday and decide whether to approve one of them on a one-year pilot basis. If the council approves the $200,000 project, design will be completed in the spring and construction will begin shortly thereafter, according to staff.

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Lane reduction eyed for stretch of Middlefield Road in Palo Alto

City council to consider 'road diet' between Lytton Avenue and Menlo Park

After years of collisions, congestion and complaints, a bustling, three-block stretch of Middlefield Road near the Menlo Park border may soon be in for a dramatic redesign, including a reduction from four lanes to three.

The proposal, which the City Council will consider Monday night, is the culmination of dozens of car accidents and heavy lobbying from residents along Middlefield, who have long maintained that the deteriorating traffic conditions have created dangerous conditions in their neighborhood. A group of residents has been meeting with city staff in recent months to discuss potential fixes. Most recently, the collaboration netted two alternatives, each of which would include as its centerpiece what's known as a "road diet."

One thing that everyone agrees on is that the status quo isn't working. According to the city's traffic study, the area is badly congested during commute hours, with all three Middlefield Road intersections in the area functioning at levels of service D, E or F during the busy times (the three lowest grades). On Middlefield and Hawthorne Avenue, which has a level of service F, cars face delays of 126.9 seconds (a little over 2 minutes) during the morning peak. Middlefield and Everett Avenue works as an an F during the evening peak, with delays of 57.9 seconds.

While crawling cars present one problem, speeding cars present another. During off-peak hours, the speed on Middlefield -- where the speed limit is 25 miles per hour -- is typically between 31 and 34 miles per hour (neighbors report seeing drivers traveling at 50 mph or higher). Collisions are common here given the high volume of cars, including an estimated 18,000 on a typical weekday, and the poor visibility for drivers turning at intersections. Palo Alto staff cited a California Highway Patrol database that showed about 33 reported collisions on this three-block segment between 2009 and 2013. Residents believe the number is far higher because many minor accidents aren't reported. Some have taken photos every time cars collide or a vehicle crashes into a yard.

According to Palo Alto's traffic staff, most collisions were "caused by right-of-way violations and the prevailing crash type was angle or broadside."

"Several have resulted in injuries and/or have encroached onto the sidewalk area or private properties, creating safety and quality of life concerns for the residents that live and travel along Middlefield Road," the report states.

Some improvements are already in place. In 2015, the city began prohibiting left turns onto Middlefield from Hawthorne and Everett. During peak hours, cars are also prohibited from going straight across Middlefield and must turn right. This, however, did not solve the problem. In fact, staff reports that the number of eastbound left-hand turns during the evening peak traffic hour at Middlefield and Hawthorne actually went up from 42 to 57 after the change.

Now, the city is preparing to take things to the next level. Under the first of two alternatives known as 7A, the section of Middlefield Road between Lytton and Palo Alto avenues would be redesigned so that instead of two lanes of traffic going in each direction, there would be one, along with a left-turn lane in the middle. In the southbound direction, the single lane would become two lanes between Everett and Lytton avenues, while the northbound direction would remain a single lane.

Known as a "road diet," the switch from four lanes to three aims to bring the numbers down. According to the Federal Highway Administration, a road diet results in a crash reduction of 19 to 47 percent. It also lessens the difference between vehicle speeds, improves access for all road uses and integrates the roadway "into surrounding uses that results in an enhanced quality of life," according to a report from the Department of Planning and Community Environment.

"A key feature of a Road Diet is that it allows reclaimed space to be allocated for other uses, such as turn lanes, bus lanes, pedestrian refuge islands, bike lanes, sidewalks, bus shelters, parking or landscaping," the report states.

Under the second proposal known as 7B, the number of lanes is reduced from two to one in the northbound direction. Southbound, however, the two-lane configuration would remain along the entire stretch. In the northbound direction, there would be a single lane for through traffic and a left-turn lane that would give local residents the ability to turn into their driveways. Unlike in 7A, this alternative does not include bike lanes. Both proposals include median barriers on Middlefield to prevent left turns from Everett and Hawthorne avenues.

John Guislin, a Middlefield Road resident who has been leading the charge for improvements, told the Weekly that for residents in his area, 7A is clearly the preferred choice "by a huge margin." By creating a buffer zone between the sidewalk and the roadway, the design makes it easier for drivers taking, or turning onto, Middlefield to see other cars.

"Accidents can happen because people edge out to look if they can turn," Guislin told the Weekly. "Having the lanes that create a 5-foot-wide buffer zone each way improves the visibility."

After grading all nine alternatives, including the ones that were previously proposed and then either revised or rejected, the group of neighbors gave 7A a grade of A-. Option 7B, which does not include curb buffers and which maintains two lanes in the southbound direction, scored a D.

"It only slows the northbound traffic but not the southbound," Guislin said of 7B. "It doesn't improve driveway exits or access and it doesn't improve the sight lines."

In its report to the council, the group noted that the traffic volumes on Middlefield have almost doubled since 2013, when there were about 10,000 vehicles per day.

"This increase in traffic has brought increased accidents, increased average speed, increased congestion and significantly reduced quality of life," the neighbors wrote. "People feel unsafe in their front yards and on the sidewalk."

The council will consider both configurations Monday and decide whether to approve one of them on a one-year pilot basis. If the council approves the $200,000 project, design will be completed in the spring and construction will begin shortly thereafter, according to staff.

Comments

Joe M
Downtown North
on Jan 17, 2017 at 10:56 am
Joe M, Downtown North
on Jan 17, 2017 at 10:56 am

It may not be within the scope of street configuration, but traffic enforcement could make a bundle of money if they set up radar and ticketed speeders. Many southbound drivers who come from the 35 MPH zone in Menlo Park to our 25 MPH zone ignore the change in speed limit. Many northbound drivers seem to enjoy taking the bend in the road at high speed, too. Sizeable fines can reduce enthusiasm for such dangerous driving.


Penny
Registered user
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jan 17, 2017 at 11:18 am
Penny, Duveneck/St. Francis
Registered user
on Jan 17, 2017 at 11:18 am

Here we go again. Traffic ticket revenues do not stay local. The city cannot "make money" that way.

That is wrong information. Please don't state something as a fact if you don't know for a fact that it is true. This is why blogs are extremely poor sources for actual news and great resources for people who spread fake news--either through ignorance or through deliberate desire to manipulate others.

Further, the police cannot use radar unless the 85th percentile speed is consistent with the posted speed. I don't know whether or not that is the case at this location. From the article, it sounds like it may not be. We should design streets for the speed and user behavior we want. Enforcement is a VERY,VERY EXPENSIVE way to manage traffic.


OK-SomeQuestions
Palo Verde
on Jan 17, 2017 at 11:20 am
OK-SomeQuestions, Palo Verde
on Jan 17, 2017 at 11:20 am

In the larger report I see versions 6A and 6B.
Can someone explain the difference between 7A and 6A?
Also, the southbound bike lane seems to 'disappear' past Everett (between it an Lincoln). Is that correct?
All in all, seems like it is worth an experiment.


naphtuli
Crescent Park
on Jan 17, 2017 at 11:31 am
naphtuli, Crescent Park
on Jan 17, 2017 at 11:31 am

Traffic is like water in a system of pipes. It has to back up somewhere. Look for evening peak hour northbound traffic to back up at Hamilton and Forest Avenues instead of Lytton and University Avenues. But that is what the pilot is designed to let us know.


5 coats
Barron Park
on Jan 17, 2017 at 12:14 pm
5 coats, Barron Park
on Jan 17, 2017 at 12:14 pm

The Charleston/Arastadero lane reduction has caused more delays rather than to improve flow of traffic. Why make the same error again at great expense without solving the problem?


Willows Resident
Menlo Park
on Jan 17, 2017 at 12:18 pm
Willows Resident, Menlo Park
on Jan 17, 2017 at 12:18 pm

It's going to be interesting (understatement) to see how these plans work when Willow road is shut down for redesign of the 101 interchange. This work is supposed to start soon and will shut down the access to 101 for long periods over the next two years. I expect Menlo Park to implement measures to prevent cut-through in the Willows (we'll make sure of that!), so all traffic will have to go Marsh or University. Enjoy!


mutti
Adobe-Meadow
on Jan 17, 2017 at 12:19 pm
mutti, Adobe-Meadow
on Jan 17, 2017 at 12:19 pm

My husband used to ride his bike to work almost every day from South PA to Downtown. Then his office moved to Marsh Road, and the only way to get there is down Middlefield. He now drives everyday. Middlefield is just too dangerous for bikes. Will this help? I doubt it. That stretch is too narrow, even if it goes down to 3 lanes.


parent
Old Palo Alto
on Jan 17, 2017 at 12:26 pm
parent, Old Palo Alto
on Jan 17, 2017 at 12:26 pm

I really do not like this plan of redesigning Middlefield Road 3 blocks at a time. Changing the number of lanes and speed limits on different parts of the same street causes a lot of confusion and distraction. This is a residential street (lined with homes, schools, churches, etc) for its entire length through the city. We should apply the same safety treatments to the entire street.


Online Name
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jan 17, 2017 at 12:30 pm
Online Name, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jan 17, 2017 at 12:30 pm

@naphtuli -- the Middlefield northbound rush hour traffic already backs up to Oregon and beyond. With this change, maybe Middlefield cam be solidly backed up all the way to Mountain View.

I hope the city bureaucrats will take the trouble to survey the whole length of Middlefield, not just the section they're tweaking today. Maybe -- now that it's January -- they'll get around to checking their "improvements" at N. Cal Ave and Jordan, too. It's only been 6 months.


Larry
Downtown North
on Jan 17, 2017 at 12:46 pm
Larry, Downtown North
on Jan 17, 2017 at 12:46 pm

The median at Hawthorne is necessary- nobody is paying attention to the no left turn signs and causing congestion and hazardous driving conditions.


Midtown
Midtown
on Jan 17, 2017 at 1:19 pm
Midtown, Midtown
on Jan 17, 2017 at 1:19 pm

The real problem here is that Willow was not extended to 280. The NIMBIES in Menlo Park killed that idea. The cars have to go somewhere.


Resident
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 17, 2017 at 1:23 pm
Resident, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 17, 2017 at 1:23 pm

The purpose of traffic management is to design efficient traffic movement not to provide bottlenecks.


DT North
Downtown North
on Jan 17, 2017 at 1:44 pm
DT North, Downtown North
on Jan 17, 2017 at 1:44 pm

I live right there and so I do want it fixed, I hear the accidents through my window all the time, however I am wondering a few things: Under what logic does putting fewer lanes make traffic flow better. It will be slower, yes, but it will just back up farther. Maybe if people are too irritated they will find some other street to go down (one which is not made for the amount of traffic we have either) As it is, Middlefield is a mess all the way down to Oregon. As for the "no left turn between 4 - 7" that was a fabulous idea but it is rarely enforced (I don't care if the city is "making money" or someone else is, some people won't learn unless ticketed!) What that means is we who live around here know to go around the block to Lytton because you cannot make a right onto Middlefield either because there are always 5-6 cars lined up down Hawthorne who can't go because of the moron at the front who is trying to go left when he shouldn't and when there is too much to do so without waiting several minutes anyway. It truly is a Cluster F. and who knows what the solution is. Thanks to my dedicated neighbors who have put so many hours into trying to find a solution!


Online Name
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jan 17, 2017 at 2:23 pm
Online Name, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jan 17, 2017 at 2:23 pm

@DT North, you write "Maybe if people are too irritated they will find some other street to go down" but the problem is that all the connector roads to 101 and those paralleling 101 are already jammed. There's no "other" place for the cars to go.

That's why intentionally backing up Middlefield by barring right turns on Willow (Menlo Park) and Palo Alto creating the mess in front of Jordan eliminating left turn lanes on N. Cal during rush hour -- when the kids aren't even there -- is so frustrating and dangerous.

It would be real special if the transportation czars of Menlo Park and Palo Alto got together to eliminate the bottlenecks they create before someone gets killed.


BRD
Woodland Ave. area (East Palo Alto)
on Jan 17, 2017 at 2:37 pm
BRD, Woodland Ave. area (East Palo Alto)
on Jan 17, 2017 at 2:37 pm

Prepare for Carmagedon. It will be a mess. Emergency vehicles wont even be able to get bye.


Resident
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 17, 2017 at 4:48 pm
Resident, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 17, 2017 at 4:48 pm

BTW 3 line roads with a turn left middle lane are also known as suicide lanes. The only reason the one on Alma works is because it runs parallel to a railroad track. I have had several near misses outside Target in Mountain View.

Definitely NO to suicide lanes.


HUTCH 7.62
Portola Valley

on Jan 17, 2017 at 6:03 pm
Name hidden, Portola Valley

on Jan 17, 2017 at 6:03 pm

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Resident
Downtown North
on Jan 17, 2017 at 7:07 pm
Resident, Downtown North
on Jan 17, 2017 at 7:07 pm

The signs at the end of Alma and Middlefield prohibiting turns at certain hours are not helping much, due to lack of enforcement. Everett and Hawthorne have become thorough fares with high speed drivers and a high volume of cars. Some of the stop signs down these streets now have 4 or 5 cars in line waiting to stop and proceed. Cars are whipping around corners, rolling through stop signs, and speeding. This has become a very unsafe condition for the neighborhood residents. Especially for the children, seniors, and bikers in our neighborhood. The quality of life has become worse with the constant parade of vehicles, noise of honking frustrated drivers racing down our streets, and pollution from exhaust. My hope is that the city takes this seriously and works on implementing traffic calming so we can have a better quality of life and feel safer on our neighborhood streets.


Resident
Monroe Park
on Jan 17, 2017 at 7:48 pm
Resident, Monroe Park
on Jan 17, 2017 at 7:48 pm

So let me get this straight -- the population grows rapidly, we have catastrophic congestion, firefighters complain that they can't get to emergencies because of the "traffic calming" changes... and the solution is: lane reduction???

Government has become frivolous, bloated, and utterly irrational.


Mike Alexander
St. Claire Gardens
on Jan 18, 2017 at 1:21 am
Mike Alexander, St. Claire Gardens
on Jan 18, 2017 at 1:21 am

What a mess. I remember in 1970 or so I wrote my first-ever letter to the editor. I(and many, many others) opposed a plan to build an expressway from 101 to 280 that would have straddled and channelized San Francisquito Ck from 101 to El Camino, and then followed Sand Hill Rd. County planners knew then what was coming and tried to deal with it, but the neighborhoods were having none of it. I would write the very same letter now.

What's needed is a BART line from Fremont, under the bay, under EPA, under downtown Palo Alto, under Stanford, to SLAC and VC row on Sand Hill. Then another BART subway should replace CalTrain. With that done, meaningful mass transit is possible throughout this hideous thing we call Silicon Valley. And until that's done, fixes are going to come 3 blocks at a time.

It'll cost billions, but will be worth every penny.


Mike
University South
on Jan 18, 2017 at 7:21 am
Mike, University South
on Jan 18, 2017 at 7:21 am

Forest Avenue and Middlefield is VERY dangerous! I see crashes all the time. Why isn't this area being included?


Not working
Downtown North
on Jan 18, 2017 at 12:09 pm
Not working , Downtown North
on Jan 18, 2017 at 12:09 pm

So as some people said the non turn lanes at the end of Hawthorne and Everett from Middlefield and Alma really don't work as nobody pays attention and nobody monitering.
I also think putting all these crosswalk with no lights blinking is very dangerous for everyone. The older ones on Alma /Hawthorne and Alma/forest are so dangerous at dusk and night.
They now have new crosswalks on Middlefield and can't remember the crossroads. But they all need lights!!! Los altos, Redwood City, East PAlo Alto all can afford the blinking lights. If there are no stop signs or stop lights they need blinking sidewalks !!!


Unbelievable
Registered user
Midtown
on Jan 18, 2017 at 1:02 pm
Unbelievable , Midtown
Registered user
on Jan 18, 2017 at 1:02 pm

What an abomination this will cause! [Portion removed.]

This will force traffic to use residential streets as traffic-free thoroughfares!


Middlefield Lane Reduction
another community
on Jan 19, 2017 at 8:22 am
Middlefield Lane Reduction, another community
on Jan 19, 2017 at 8:22 am

This is just going to force even more cut through traffic through the residential neighborhoods to the northeast of Middlefield in Palo Alto and Menlo Park. I expect my favorite cut through on Chaucer over the bridge to Pope will become significantly more congested than it is already. Any guesses on what residential streets will become the new best cut through after this project is implemented? At least it is only going to be a one year "pilot" at this point.


Hawthorny
Downtown North
on Jan 19, 2017 at 2:27 pm
Hawthorny, Downtown North
on Jan 19, 2017 at 2:27 pm

Great ideas need to be backed up with enforcement - and fines. The no left turns from Hawthorne to Middlefield are consciously and blatantly disregarded - motorist after motorist - every afternoon. Without exception. As others have stated - these people create more congestion for everyone else...so selfish.

This past summer, one neighbor counted 40+ cars insisting on making their left turn onto Middlefield - in spite of the ever-prominent signage saying not to.

A traffic officer told me that enforcement is difficult in the afternoon (due to staffing challenges - perhaps a change of shift??), but assured me that they sometimes pull people over at PA Avenue. Don't know. Have never seen law enforcement there in the afternoon. I can imagine that pulling folks over anywhere near there could add to the congestion.

How about a traffic enforcement camera for left-turn-violators? Consider it a toll rather than a fine if you must. Deduct it from their Fast-Trac or send 'em a bill (and their photo).

Sick of blatantly rude behavior.






Dangerous
Downtown North
on Jan 19, 2017 at 10:12 pm
Dangerous, Downtown North
on Jan 19, 2017 at 10:12 pm

Downtown north already bears the brunt of much cut-through traffic -- lots of frustrated drivers who don't stop at signs and don't want to yield to pedestrians or vehicles that have the right of way. A once-tranquil neighborhood has become dangerous...but nothing like the killing zone it will become with this plan. I hope the city is doing traffic counts on interior streets as part of the test as I predict they will double, along with accidents.


Enlightened
Menlo Park
on May 15, 2017 at 4:44 pm
Enlightened, Menlo Park
on May 15, 2017 at 4:44 pm

I live in Menlo Park and work in San Francisco. I walk to and from the Caltrain Station daily from the Willows through North Palo Alto. Since they added the signs limiting the left (and right turns) through North Palo Alto, I have seen police stop cars making the left turn from Alma to Hawthorne and Everett, perhaps 5 times. I believe that these intersections need to be monitored. The price of the tickets should cover the cost of the police monitoring the intersections. It is irresponsible to make rules that no one monitors.


resident
Charleston Meadows
on May 15, 2017 at 6:14 pm
resident, Charleston Meadows
on May 15, 2017 at 6:14 pm

Reducing the number of lanes on a street is the worst idea ever. The purpose of the street is to move people efficiently and quickly - if possible. When you reduce the lanes on a well-used street you now force people onto other residential streets. I have since figured out how to get across the city on residential streets based on where the main street lights are to cross the main thorough fares. So do the people on Waverly and Cowper appreciate cars on their streets on a regular basis because it is the fastest way to cross town? Don't think so. And yes - reducing Charleston to one lane each way is a disaster. What is even worse is that these actions are billed as a experiments but will never change. Sorry - that the city has gone off the rails here.


More Gridlock 3.0
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on May 16, 2017 at 10:09 am
More Gridlock 3.0, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on May 16, 2017 at 10:09 am

Oh, goodie. Let's create more gridlock, more cut-throughs, more congestion, more pedestrian accidents, more road rage.

I've already given up on trying to get to Town & Country's Trader Joe's and now this will make it even tougher to get to Menlo Park.

Traffic's like sausage, squeeze it one place and pops up elsewhere.


Me 2
Old Palo Alto
on May 16, 2017 at 10:35 am
Me 2, Old Palo Alto
on May 16, 2017 at 10:35 am

Hope Downtown North and Crescent Park residents enjoy the extra cut-through traffic in their neighborhoods. All because of some selfish residents of who decided to buy property on a major artery in Palo Alto. That's like moving near a club and complaining about the noise.


resident
Charleston Meadows
on May 18, 2017 at 7:02 am
resident, Charleston Meadows
on May 18, 2017 at 7:02 am

I went up to Redwood City via Middlefield yesterday during rush hour and was glad that there were more than one lane. If you all haven't noticed the Embarcadero interchange is totally overwhelmed. The Bay Road is closed off after the shopping center - that is now driving traffic through the residential area - I am sure that everyone appreciates that. I am now taking El Camino as the route going north and if the cities try and turn that into one lane then we are in disaster mode. Who is making these decision to cut traffic on major crossroads? No one is going to be taking bikes on these roads. There has to be some right brain / left brain activity here as the logic just does not work.


Illogic R Us
Greendell/Walnut Grove
on May 18, 2017 at 11:06 am
Illogic R Us, Greendell/Walnut Grove
on May 18, 2017 at 11:06 am

@Resident -- "Who is making these decision to cut traffic on major crossroads? No one is going to be taking bikes on these roads. There has to be some right brain / left brain activity here as the logic just does not work."

Surely you jest. Not too long ago, the PA Transportation head proposed a plan to change the speed limit on Middlefield block by block!

Just ignore the fact that Bayshore and San Antonio are under construction and that Embarcadero is jammed and that the city is actually considering giving Casti its own exit ramp off Embarcadero, effectively eliminating one lane there.


Marie
Registered user
Midtown
on May 18, 2017 at 11:45 am
Marie, Midtown
Registered user
on May 18, 2017 at 11:45 am

@ resident
Narrowing a three block area of Middlefield is nothing compared to plans to dedicate one lane on El Camino to BRT (Bus Rapid Transit) 24/7 by VTA. I believe this has been approved by San Jose, Santa Clara and Sunnyvale. Palo Alto has still said no. I'm not sure about Mountain View and Los Altos. Anytime the acronym BRT is used, this is one of the options. Please check out the Multimodal Corridor Plan:
Web Link
Web Link

There has been a lot of pushback which may be why is really hard to sort through the verbiage to the actual proposal. There are lots of other proposals to make El Camino a "Grand Boulevard." I'm hopeful that they will switch from a BRT lane in the middle of the street 24/7 to a shared lane at the curb. However, I have reviewed the plan above and can find no real information on the current progress of implementing BRT currently. The best I could find was from a 2006 proposal:

Preserve the through-lane capacity on El
Camino Real to allow for planned growth
and increased densities (minimum two
through-lanes required); consider potential
dedicated bus lanes for express
bus or bus rapid transit and incident

Note that they think that they think only two through lanes are required. Anytime El Camino has been down to two lanes in Palo Alto, due to temporary construction, massive traffic jams have occurred.

So I think they are still trying but couldn't find current documentation of the effort. If anyone else can, please enlighten us.


Steve Dabrowski
Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 18, 2017 at 3:39 pm
Steve Dabrowski, Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 18, 2017 at 3:39 pm

Don't worry TDM (Traffic Demand Management) will solve everything, ho ha ha ha ha.......!


musical
Palo Verde
on May 19, 2017 at 1:12 am
musical, Palo Verde
on May 19, 2017 at 1:12 am

@Marie, not just an exclusive Bus Rapid Transit lane at the center median, but also still the shared lane with Bus Not-so-Rapid at the opposite curb. I think VTA light rail would fit nicely in the remaining lane. /sarcasm


resident
Charleston Meadows
on May 19, 2017 at 6:12 am
resident, Charleston Meadows
on May 19, 2017 at 6:12 am

I had relatives at Webster House and buses had to stop at the signal at Webster/Lytton. During the summer that was a total blast of bus fumes and annoyance. Buses are a total mess on the surrounding street area.
Note on Forest and Middlefield - the drainage ditch is low so once you figure that you have to cross slowly and that creates a problem. Maybe the street crew can check if that is a standard or just poorly constructed. People have to slow on the turn onto Forest with light, no light or no cars.


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