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Council intrigued by San Antonio condo plan

Officials optimistic about rezoning proposal to create 54 housing units near Mountain View border

In years past, the 54-unit housing development currently proposed for a site on San Antonio Road in Palo Alto probably would have withered at the starting line.

It violates the zoning code, it clashes with the Comprehensive Plan and it is targeting a road that the council had previously agreed is far from ideal for housing. It could displace retail, including a popular martial arts studio, and it is already raising alarms among neighborhood residents about traffic, parking and noise impacts.

And at a time when some council members are calling for the city to focus on housing for low-income residents and those in the "missing middle," including teachers and other public employees, this proposed development would consist largely of two- and three-bedroom condominiums, the majority of which would be sold at market rate.

But in the latest sign of just how urgent the topic of housing has become in Palo Alto, members of the City Council offered words of encouragement on Monday night to the developer, Golden Gate Homes, for its project: a L-shaped building with 54 condominiums. The building would occupy an eclectic block near Leghorn Street, which includes a mix of retail and industrial uses, across the street from the condominium complexes Greenhouse and Greenhouse II.

The developer initially planned to build 48 units at the 1-acre site at 788 San Antonio Road and has since added six more units.

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So far, the project is just a concept. The council's Monday discussion was a "pre-screening" session geared toward gauging interest in the project. Despite some reservations about zoning, traffic, lost retail and excessive building massing, members indicated that they are by and large interested.

Councilman Greg Scharff observed that during his nine years on the council, the council has not reviewed any multifamily condominium projects until now. He said he wants to see the project built and warned against killing it "by a thousand cuts," which he says is city's typical way of denying projects.

"We talk a lot about housing up here, but we don't actually approve it," Scharff said. "I definitely encourage you to move forward on this."

Councilwoman Karen Holman wasn't quite as enthusiastic. Given that the site is zoned for "service commercial" (CS) and that the developer has requested a zone change to dense multifamily residential (RM-40), Holman wondered why this doesn't constitute as "spot zoning." City Attorney Molly Stump said that this zone change would technically not be spot zoning if the council finds it to be in the public interest.

Holman also pushed back against the plan to make the project a purely residential complex without ground-floor retail. She suggested that the developer look for ways to integrate retail into the site and to potentially include Studio Kicks, the martial arts studio that currently operates at the site. She also recommended that the developer dedicate more units to affordable housing (the current proposal calls for eight of the 54 units to be offered at below market rate) and to break up the massing of the building.

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"This is a pretty large monolithic building on two sides, with not much differentiation," Holman said.

These reservations notwithstanding, Holman noted that Palo Alto needs housing – a sentiment that everyone at the dais shared. Councilman Cory Wolbach lauded what he called an "interesting proposal" that will bring into focus some of the tough discussions the city will need to have as it seeks to meet its goal of producing about 300 housing units annually. Councilman Adrian Fine also said he hopes the developer will move ahead with the project, even if a few kinks still have to be worked out.

The residents who spoke at Monday's meeting were more polarized, with some residents lauding the potential influx of housing, others raising alarm about the development's potential impact on neighborhoods, and still others staying agnostic on the housing but bemoaning the potential loss of Studio Kicks.

Pamela Harter, a resident at the Green Acres II residential community, said she and her neighbors are concerned that this project – in conjunction with the two Marriott hotels now being constructed on the block – will bring "a constant barrage of more traffic and noise."

"I'm personally very much in favor of affordable housing but you have to balance that with the people who live in the neighborhoods," Harter said.

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Stephanie Downey, who owns an office building next to the site, said she was excited about the project. Downey, a high school teacher, said the new development could potentially provide housing for some of her colleagues.

"It's a challenge for a teacher to be able to afford anything within commuting distance to this community to work here," Downey said.

Most council members found themselves somewhere between these two positions. Councilman Tom DuBois suggested that the developer consider making this a senior-housing proposal and suggested that San Antonio Road wouldn't be an ideal location for bicycling school commuters. He also recommended that the developer consider ways to retain retail, a sentiment that Vice Mayor Eric Filseth shared.

"The reason we have retail protection ordinances is because we don't want to lose this kind of feature of our community," Filseth said, referring to Studio Kicks. "Because there's only so much land and there's so much demand for it, I wouldn't want to see it go away."

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Council intrigued by San Antonio condo plan

Officials optimistic about rezoning proposal to create 54 housing units near Mountain View border

In years past, the 54-unit housing development currently proposed for a site on San Antonio Road in Palo Alto probably would have withered at the starting line.

It violates the zoning code, it clashes with the Comprehensive Plan and it is targeting a road that the council had previously agreed is far from ideal for housing. It could displace retail, including a popular martial arts studio, and it is already raising alarms among neighborhood residents about traffic, parking and noise impacts.

And at a time when some council members are calling for the city to focus on housing for low-income residents and those in the "missing middle," including teachers and other public employees, this proposed development would consist largely of two- and three-bedroom condominiums, the majority of which would be sold at market rate.

But in the latest sign of just how urgent the topic of housing has become in Palo Alto, members of the City Council offered words of encouragement on Monday night to the developer, Golden Gate Homes, for its project: a L-shaped building with 54 condominiums. The building would occupy an eclectic block near Leghorn Street, which includes a mix of retail and industrial uses, across the street from the condominium complexes Greenhouse and Greenhouse II.

The developer initially planned to build 48 units at the 1-acre site at 788 San Antonio Road and has since added six more units.

So far, the project is just a concept. The council's Monday discussion was a "pre-screening" session geared toward gauging interest in the project. Despite some reservations about zoning, traffic, lost retail and excessive building massing, members indicated that they are by and large interested.

Councilman Greg Scharff observed that during his nine years on the council, the council has not reviewed any multifamily condominium projects until now. He said he wants to see the project built and warned against killing it "by a thousand cuts," which he says is city's typical way of denying projects.

"We talk a lot about housing up here, but we don't actually approve it," Scharff said. "I definitely encourage you to move forward on this."

Councilwoman Karen Holman wasn't quite as enthusiastic. Given that the site is zoned for "service commercial" (CS) and that the developer has requested a zone change to dense multifamily residential (RM-40), Holman wondered why this doesn't constitute as "spot zoning." City Attorney Molly Stump said that this zone change would technically not be spot zoning if the council finds it to be in the public interest.

Holman also pushed back against the plan to make the project a purely residential complex without ground-floor retail. She suggested that the developer look for ways to integrate retail into the site and to potentially include Studio Kicks, the martial arts studio that currently operates at the site. She also recommended that the developer dedicate more units to affordable housing (the current proposal calls for eight of the 54 units to be offered at below market rate) and to break up the massing of the building.

"This is a pretty large monolithic building on two sides, with not much differentiation," Holman said.

These reservations notwithstanding, Holman noted that Palo Alto needs housing – a sentiment that everyone at the dais shared. Councilman Cory Wolbach lauded what he called an "interesting proposal" that will bring into focus some of the tough discussions the city will need to have as it seeks to meet its goal of producing about 300 housing units annually. Councilman Adrian Fine also said he hopes the developer will move ahead with the project, even if a few kinks still have to be worked out.

The residents who spoke at Monday's meeting were more polarized, with some residents lauding the potential influx of housing, others raising alarm about the development's potential impact on neighborhoods, and still others staying agnostic on the housing but bemoaning the potential loss of Studio Kicks.

Pamela Harter, a resident at the Green Acres II residential community, said she and her neighbors are concerned that this project – in conjunction with the two Marriott hotels now being constructed on the block – will bring "a constant barrage of more traffic and noise."

"I'm personally very much in favor of affordable housing but you have to balance that with the people who live in the neighborhoods," Harter said.

Stephanie Downey, who owns an office building next to the site, said she was excited about the project. Downey, a high school teacher, said the new development could potentially provide housing for some of her colleagues.

"It's a challenge for a teacher to be able to afford anything within commuting distance to this community to work here," Downey said.

Most council members found themselves somewhere between these two positions. Councilman Tom DuBois suggested that the developer consider making this a senior-housing proposal and suggested that San Antonio Road wouldn't be an ideal location for bicycling school commuters. He also recommended that the developer consider ways to retain retail, a sentiment that Vice Mayor Eric Filseth shared.

"The reason we have retail protection ordinances is because we don't want to lose this kind of feature of our community," Filseth said, referring to Studio Kicks. "Because there's only so much land and there's so much demand for it, I wouldn't want to see it go away."

Comments

Stop Developer Giveaways
Crescent Park
on Oct 16, 2018 at 4:51 am
Stop Developer Giveaways, Crescent Park
on Oct 16, 2018 at 4:51 am

The article only hints at what is really going on. Emboldened developers increasingly show up nowadays with "this will make me richer" proposals and the Council majority then bends over backwards to help out the developer by overturning established laws.

The site's current zoning and density bonus allows over 60% residential with the rest being community-serving businesses. But the developer can make yet more selling luxury condominiums, so Councilmember Scharff and some others are willing to ignore their own previous promise to retain retail and retail-like services in the city. Who wins? The developer, of course.

How can you trust local politicians when this keeps happening?


Correction please
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 16, 2018 at 5:21 am
Correction please, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 16, 2018 at 5:21 am

Gennady- is the greenhouse I and II, not green acres on san antonio road.
Naturally holman objected, I expected no less. Fortunately, her tenure on the council is coming to an end.

EDITOR'S NOTE: Thanks, the story has been updated to refer to Greenhouse, not Green Acres.


Resident
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 16, 2018 at 7:59 am
Resident, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 16, 2018 at 7:59 am

I am completely against the idea of removing retail and useful recreation or services (such as a popular martial arts studio) in favor of anything.

We residents have to have services, retail and very importantly recreation. We are humans not pack rats.

Animal welfare people are always protesting at the way animals are caged without enough space to move around and live a happy life. It is sad to think that humans will soon be in the same position.


Payola or Just Civic Minded?
Downtown North
on Oct 16, 2018 at 8:10 am
Payola or Just Civic Minded?, Downtown North
on Oct 16, 2018 at 8:10 am

At the risk of sounding really naïve, what are the incentives for PACC members to favor the extensive overdevelopment of Palo Alto?

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Density in North PA, please!
Registered user
Fairmeadow
on Oct 16, 2018 at 9:52 am
Density in North PA, please!, Fairmeadow
Registered user
on Oct 16, 2018 at 9:52 am

Can we please, please, please stop cramming more people into South Palo Alto, and try for some density in North Palo Alto? It is completely nuts here, so much construction, and San Antonio is clogged all the time. If people are so into rezoning for density, lets rezone parts of the north side of the city for a change.

Thank you for listening.


Mark Weiss
Registered user
Downtown North
on Oct 16, 2018 at 10:14 am
Mark Weiss, Downtown North
Registered user
on Oct 16, 2018 at 10:14 am

I can’t see the article per se but I know —and perhaps GS covered this is the main — the developer gives a P.O. box as his office address — which to me says “shady” “small time” or “fly by night” — but is married to the former head of “non profit” Palo Alto Housing — ie the people behind the Maybell fiasco — who now works for Peter Pau /Sand Hill Property - the folks behind the very popular Edgewood Estates — but this is bigly better — despite the plowing under of retail — because it’s denser and souther. Get it got it good. Grief.


Frank
Downtown North
on Oct 16, 2018 at 10:33 am
Frank, Downtown North
on Oct 16, 2018 at 10:33 am

The community: we need more housing.
The council: we need more housing.
Developer: we'd like to build more housing.
The council: we need only housing the exact size, shape, and density we want. And with a martial arts studio.
The community: we need only housing that is cheap, for seniors, creates no additional traffic or carbon emissions, and is no where near my house or school.
Developer: We can't make housing like that.
The council and community: but we want it [stomping feet]
Developer: Thanks, we'll build elsewhere, so more people continue to drive into Palo Alto.
The council and community: we need more housing.


Another ugly project
Adobe-Meadow
on Oct 16, 2018 at 10:34 am
Another ugly project, Adobe-Meadow
on Oct 16, 2018 at 10:34 am

Based on the rendering that accompanies the article, we are in not only for more density and gridlock, but also for yet another ugly major development. I guess it will be a good match for the nearby JCC (sarcasm intended). Why is it that we cannot do aesthetically pleasing buildings in this town? Yet one more eyesore...


mauricio
Registered user
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Oct 16, 2018 at 10:41 am
mauricio, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
Registered user
on Oct 16, 2018 at 10:41 am

Quote:At the risk of sounding really naïve, what are the incentives for PACC members to favor the extensive overdevelopment of Palo Alto?

This is the big question that has never been satisfactory answered. I have my suspicions, but they can never be proven without a thorough journalistic, and probably forensic investigation. I believe that what seems to be now like a perpetual and deliberate stalling of the investigation into Liz Kniss's campaign contribution issue should raise red flags everywhere.

I would like to challenge the Weekly to conduct such an investigation, if it, and it would require forensic accounting investigation.

Since I have thoroughly believe in my suspicions regarding the marriage of developer money and certain city council members, not only the present council, I should add, they were a major contributor to my decision to leave Palo Alto.


Page Mlll again
Duveneck School
on Oct 16, 2018 at 11:13 am
Page Mlll again, Duveneck School
on Oct 16, 2018 at 11:13 am
Me 2
Old Palo Alto
on Oct 16, 2018 at 12:02 pm
Me 2, Old Palo Alto
on Oct 16, 2018 at 12:02 pm

[Portion removed; original reference removed.]

"I should add, they were a major contributor to my decision to leave Palo Alto."

You haven't left. You (and many others still holding on to their Prop 13 assessed properties even though they live elsewhere) are still holding onto Palo Alto property that is causing our housing prices to rise, which is leading to the need to build these condos.

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No to rezoning and over population
Downtown North
on Oct 16, 2018 at 12:21 pm
No to rezoning and over population, Downtown North
on Oct 16, 2018 at 12:21 pm

Yet another give away via a zoning change to enrich developers and continue to destroy quality of life in Palo Alto and this area. We do not have a housing problem, we have an overpopulation problem caused by our city council and greedy developers who want to get rich and live somewhere less crowded.

This property is zoned to serve the community and that is what it should do. By community, I mean the people who live here and have lost so many shopping and recreational options, not a community that wants to move here.

We need to scream louder at the city council to not allow this sort of rezoning to diminish our quality of life. We need to take a stand and say that we are full and developers should only build small units that fit within the zoning for our city. They are making a fortune, if that is what they had to do they would still do it. Stop giving them exemptions and watch them follow the rules.


Some facts
South of Midtown
on Oct 16, 2018 at 1:38 pm
Some facts, South of Midtown
on Oct 16, 2018 at 1:38 pm

Golden Gate Homes is owned by Ted O'Hanlon, the project manager who also managed the conversion of the Maybell orchard, constructing 16 2-story market rate homes there.

O'Hanlon's wife is the recently resigned head of Palo Alto Housing, she now works for Sand Hill Developers. Trying to park in Edgewood Plaza can give you a flavor of Sand Hill's lack of design expertise.
San Antonio's site owner is Yuorong Han.


PA Muckraker
College Terrace
on Oct 16, 2018 at 2:08 pm
PA Muckraker, College Terrace
on Oct 16, 2018 at 2:08 pm

> PA Weekly title: Council intrigued by San Antonio condo plan

Why are they intrigued? What's in it for them?


mauricio
Registered user
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Oct 16, 2018 at 3:38 pm
mauricio, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
Registered user
on Oct 16, 2018 at 3:38 pm

Quote:'You haven't left. You (and many others still holding on to their Prop 13 assessed properties even though they live elsewhere) are still holding onto Palo Alto property that is causing our housing prices to rise, which is leading to the need to build these condos. '

You couldn't be more wrong. I could sell my house for 12 times what I bought it, which would distort and push home prices higher. You certainly wouldn't be able to buy it anywhere close to what it sold for in 1985. The worst thing that could happen to non foreign buyers is if more longtime owners started to sell off their homes. Not only will cash rich foreign buyers buy them up, it would also push prices up and make buying a home in Palo Alto even more difficult. You can bet every penny you have that longtime residents would sell to the highest bidders.


sm
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 16, 2018 at 4:04 pm
sm, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 16, 2018 at 4:04 pm

This would be a far better project under CS zoning than it is under RM-40. Unfortunately there are council members who would happily change zoning to create a worse project because they can't resist an opportunity to invalidate our zoning code.

CS would require retail with 30 housing units. With density bonus would CS become 40 housing units with retail? If we're throwing retail out the window to go from 30 or 40 to 54 we're being horribly shortsighted.

Don't accept any benefits like a Studio Kicks space in exchange for zoning changes. Conditioning the approval on benefits reeks of PC zoning and it is always a disaster. A zoning change needs to stand on its own merits and this one clearly does not.


Gale Johnson
Registered user
Adobe-Meadow
on Oct 16, 2018 at 4:32 pm
Gale Johnson, Adobe-Meadow
Registered user
on Oct 16, 2018 at 4:32 pm

Thank god for pre-screening sessions.

"Council intrigued by San Antonio condo plan"

"Officials optimistic about rezoning proposal to create 54 housing units near Mountain View border"

Sadly, the definition below might be apt and tell the real story behind any enthusiasm for this project.

Intrigue: 2 [ no obj. ] make secret plans to do something illicit or detrimental to someone: the delegates were intriguing for their own gains.

My very personal viewpoint and concern: I live very near that site and I use San Antonio Rd for many of my trips. Traffic is terrible now during the peak periods. Add to it the Marriott hotels and a condominium complex and it will be nightmarish.

We can listen and learn, maybe a little bit, from our two termed out CC members, Karen Holman and Greg Scharff, based on their different viewpoints. But they will be gone and now we will have a new shrunken council to deal with the proposed project. We need Eric Filseth and Tom Dubois to bring some sensible reasoning into future discussions. They have already raised good questions about the project. Cory Wolbach supports housing of any and all types, even if only market rate housing is proposed. I think his primary goal, at all costs, is to meet the 300 new housing units built every year.

I'm getting tired of hearing about affordable rate housing as being a priority...and in particular housing for low and very low income people, the ones who serve us everyday and drive many miles to do it, and for minimum wages. It's apparently not a priority or else we would be doing more about getting it to happen. And developers know that, and they know they currently have the friendly ears of pro growth CC members for building housing that will yield maximum profits for them, i.e., market rate housing. And they also know which candidates to support with campaign donations to keep that gravy train rolling.



Anonymous
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Oct 16, 2018 at 11:44 pm
Anonymous, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Oct 16, 2018 at 11:44 pm

Having a hard time getting a handle on the size and scope and impact of this initial proposal. We need housing. I don’t quite get the pushback against condos, though - but I find ground floor retail to be a bad idea. Why not a better design, like the attractive condos (or townhouses?) along San Antonio that are called Rosewalk or similar? Parking, sidewalk with grass/foliage.
In my experience/to my knowledge requiring ground floor retail tenants doesn’t work. In some cities, these stay vacant and don’t help anyone.


San Antonio Parking Lot
Palo Verde School
on Oct 17, 2018 at 8:48 am
San Antonio Parking Lot, Palo Verde School
on Oct 17, 2018 at 8:48 am

This should be a NO GO from the first mention.

San Antonio Road is a parking lot twice a day as it is. Add to this the 2,000 apartments that are coming on line from new apartment developments wrapping San Antonio Plaza, and we will have total gridlock.

There is NO WAY San Antonio Road can take one more housing development. Needed or not needed, this housing will make a horrible traffic situation unbearable.

Whatever traffic engineer thought San Antonio Road could possibly take one more car should have their engineering license pulled for incompetence.

I encourage CPA to actually visit San Antonio Road between 4:30 PM and 6:30 PM and experience the current situation first hand prior to actually forming an opinion. Oh yes, while there, imagine traffic from the 2,000 new apartments slated to come on line in the next 18 months.


Baby You Can Drive My Car
Greenmeadow
on Oct 17, 2018 at 8:56 am
Baby You Can Drive My Car, Greenmeadow
on Oct 17, 2018 at 8:56 am

> I encourage CPA to actually visit San Antonio Road between 4:30 PM and 6:30 PM and experience the current situation first hand prior to actually forming an opinion. Oh yes, while there, imagine traffic from the 2,000 new apartments slated to come on line in the next 18 months.

According to the mayor, there is no traffic congestion in Palo Alto, just too many cars with motors idling.



Anon
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 17, 2018 at 10:18 am
Anon, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 17, 2018 at 10:18 am

Posted by Baby You Can Drive My Car, a resident of Greenmeadow

>> > I encourage CPA to actually visit San Antonio Road between 4:30 PM and 6:30 PM and experience the current situation first hand prior to actually forming an opinion. Oh yes, while there, imagine traffic from the 2,000 new apartments slated to come on line in the next 18 months.

>> According to the mayor, there is no traffic congestion in Palo Alto, just too many cars with motors idling.

It is a 1.1 mile 21 minute walk to the San Antonio Caltrain station from "Studio Kicks". I daresay that there are times at rush hour when walking for sure would be faster than driving that road segment.



musical
Palo Verde
on Oct 17, 2018 at 10:28 am
musical, Palo Verde
on Oct 17, 2018 at 10:28 am

20 minutes walking or 20 minutes driving, what's it matter when you're talking on the phone the whole way.


StarSpring
Registered user
Adobe-Meadow
on Oct 17, 2018 at 3:49 pm
StarSpring, Adobe-Meadow
Registered user
on Oct 17, 2018 at 3:49 pm

Restrict the number of people any employer can employ in their Palo Alto based workforce, including contractors.

Continue to lower that number until housing becomes affordable.

Problem solved.


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