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Palo Alto looks to scrap outdated fees

City Council committee recommends deleting fees for billiard parlors, circus visits

It's been a while since Palo Alto has hosted a rodeo, approved a new billiard parlor or welcomed the circus to town, but one wouldn't know that from looking at the city's list of fees.

The city's fee schedule also includes fees for bowling alley licenses ($150 per year), hosting a carnival ($1,925 per day, same as a circus) or establishing a "mechanical amusement device" ($102 per year), even though officials haven't collected a penny for these activities in at least the last five years. Other fees, including ones for inflatable bounce houses and school floats, aren't as anachronistic but – in the view of some City Council members -- nearly as nonsensical.

On Tuesday, the council's Finance Committee took some initial steps in what looks to be a multiyear effort to update the city's municipal fee schedule. By a unanimous vote, the committee recommended deleting from the schedule a list of obscure Police Department fees that no longer seem to apply – including one that pertains to establishing bowling alleys, billiard halls and bingo parlors.

The committee also directed city staff to embark on a review of the entire fee schedule, one department at a time, with the goal of eliminating some fees and adjusting other to better accord with changing state requirements.

Scharff suggested that many of the fees in the book are unnecessary. Both he and Councilman Greg Tanaka had complained in the past about fees for such things as school floats and bounce houses. During the Finance Committee's budget review in May, Tanaka questioned the wisdom of requiring residents to pay fees for their children's birthday parties. Scharff made the same point on Tuesday night.

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"How many people actually pay float fees or bouncy house fees?" Scharff asked. "I think there’s a tendency in government to overregulate these kinds of things."

Scharff also suggested that some of the city's permits are also unnecessary. He cited the "gathering permits" that residents are required to pay for park gatherings that involve 25 or more people. Does the city really need to collect permits for park gatherings, he asked?

Vice Mayor Eric Filseth agreed that some fees no longer apply. The bowling alley fee, for example, no longer seems necessary because the city doesn't have bowling alleys anymore.

In addition to eliminating the obsolete police fees, city staff also plans to review a list of other fees that could be revised or moved to a different department. There is, for example, a taxicab fee that is now being updated to better align with county and state laws. There are also various fees relating to massage establishments that staff is recommending revisiting because of overlapping requirements with state permits.

Interim Chief Financial Officer Kiely Nose said staff plans to make the fee update a part of its annual routine, with the goal of getting through one or two departments every year.

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The Finance Committee first brought up the idea of revising and eliminating fees on May 16, when council members looked askance at some of the fees that the city proposed to raise. Rather than outright eliminate all the fees they deemed obscure and unnecessary, the committee directed staff to return later in the year with more information and input from affected departments.

At that time, Tanaka criticized the city for charging fees for gatherings, saying it's "ridiculous that we're going to penalize people for Easter Egg hunts." And while council members still hope that Palo Alto will have a bowling alley someday, they also acknowledged that having a bowling fee in place is unlikely to bring that dream any closer to reality.

"You don't encourage businesses by charging them a fee," Scharff said at the May meeting.

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Palo Alto looks to scrap outdated fees

City Council committee recommends deleting fees for billiard parlors, circus visits

It's been a while since Palo Alto has hosted a rodeo, approved a new billiard parlor or welcomed the circus to town, but one wouldn't know that from looking at the city's list of fees.

The city's fee schedule also includes fees for bowling alley licenses ($150 per year), hosting a carnival ($1,925 per day, same as a circus) or establishing a "mechanical amusement device" ($102 per year), even though officials haven't collected a penny for these activities in at least the last five years. Other fees, including ones for inflatable bounce houses and school floats, aren't as anachronistic but – in the view of some City Council members -- nearly as nonsensical.

On Tuesday, the council's Finance Committee took some initial steps in what looks to be a multiyear effort to update the city's municipal fee schedule. By a unanimous vote, the committee recommended deleting from the schedule a list of obscure Police Department fees that no longer seem to apply – including one that pertains to establishing bowling alleys, billiard halls and bingo parlors.

The committee also directed city staff to embark on a review of the entire fee schedule, one department at a time, with the goal of eliminating some fees and adjusting other to better accord with changing state requirements.

Scharff suggested that many of the fees in the book are unnecessary. Both he and Councilman Greg Tanaka had complained in the past about fees for such things as school floats and bounce houses. During the Finance Committee's budget review in May, Tanaka questioned the wisdom of requiring residents to pay fees for their children's birthday parties. Scharff made the same point on Tuesday night.

"How many people actually pay float fees or bouncy house fees?" Scharff asked. "I think there’s a tendency in government to overregulate these kinds of things."

Scharff also suggested that some of the city's permits are also unnecessary. He cited the "gathering permits" that residents are required to pay for park gatherings that involve 25 or more people. Does the city really need to collect permits for park gatherings, he asked?

Vice Mayor Eric Filseth agreed that some fees no longer apply. The bowling alley fee, for example, no longer seems necessary because the city doesn't have bowling alleys anymore.

In addition to eliminating the obsolete police fees, city staff also plans to review a list of other fees that could be revised or moved to a different department. There is, for example, a taxicab fee that is now being updated to better align with county and state laws. There are also various fees relating to massage establishments that staff is recommending revisiting because of overlapping requirements with state permits.

Interim Chief Financial Officer Kiely Nose said staff plans to make the fee update a part of its annual routine, with the goal of getting through one or two departments every year.

The Finance Committee first brought up the idea of revising and eliminating fees on May 16, when council members looked askance at some of the fees that the city proposed to raise. Rather than outright eliminate all the fees they deemed obscure and unnecessary, the committee directed staff to return later in the year with more information and input from affected departments.

At that time, Tanaka criticized the city for charging fees for gatherings, saying it's "ridiculous that we're going to penalize people for Easter Egg hunts." And while council members still hope that Palo Alto will have a bowling alley someday, they also acknowledged that having a bowling fee in place is unlikely to bring that dream any closer to reality.

"You don't encourage businesses by charging them a fee," Scharff said at the May meeting.

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Wayne Martin
Professorville
on Oct 16, 2018 at 11:00 pm
Wayne Martin, Professorville
on Oct 16, 2018 at 11:00 pm

The City of Palo Alto has always had its hand in our pockets. The following fee schedule is from the 1911 Municipal code:
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Each street musician, $1.00 per quarter year.

Each patent medicine vendor, $50.00 per day.

Each auctioneer making a sale in said City, $5.00 per
day.

Sale of tobacco in any form, $1.00 per quarter year.

SUB. J. Every proprietor or keeper of a billiard,
bagatelle or pool table contained in a public or billiard
hall shall pay a license tax of $2.00 per quarter year for
each table.

SUB. K. The proprietor, manager or lessee of each
nine- or ten-pin alley, bowling or box alley shall pay a
license tax of $2.50 per quarter year for each alley.

SUB. L. The proprietor or manager of each men-
agerie, circus or collection of animals shall pay a license
tax of $50.00 per day and $3.00 additional for each side
show or exhibition for which an entrance fee is charged,
except that a license tax of $5.00 for each performance
shall be collected for each show of trick horses, cats,
monkeys or other domestic animals only.

SUB. M. The proprietor or manager of any tight
rope or wire rope performance, panorama, show of figures
or sleight of hand, exhibited for gain or reward, shall
pay a license tax of $3.00 for each performance.

SUB. N. The proprietor or manager of each shooting
gallery shall pay a license tax of $3.00 per quarter year.

SUB. O. The proprietor, manager or lessee of flying
horses, so-called, or merry-go-round shall pay a license tax
for each ring or set of $5.00 for each day or portion of a
clay in which they are run ; or if a license is granted for a
month, a license tax of $25.00 shall be paid in advance by
such owner, manager or lessee.

SUB. P. Every astrologer, fortune teller, medium,
clairvoyant, or mind reader, doing business in the City of
Palo Alto, whether in connection with other exhibitions or
performances for which a license has been paid or
separately, shall pay a license tax of $10.00 per quarter
year.

SUB. Q. For each exhibition or performance for
which an admission fee is charged, for any theatrical
performance, or any performance given by minstrel, or
opera or concert singers, for any acrobatic performance
or show or exhibition of animal or animals, figures, jugg-
lers, necromancers, magicians, wire or rope dancing,
sleight of hand exhibitions, or any other performance or
entertainment for which an admission fee is charged, a
license tax of $2.00 shall be paid by the owner, manager
or lessee thereof ; provided, that this subdivision shall not
be construed to require any license to be paid for any
church or school socials or entertainments given for
benevolent purposes.

SUB. R. The proprietor, manager or lessee of a skat
ing rink so-called, including all exhibitions or perform-
ances in connection therewith, shall pay a license tax of
$10.00 per quarter year.
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There are more .. but these few should make the point that once these fees are established, they never go away. Let's hope that some of those introduced in the early 1900s will eventually disappear from our municipal code.


Library Fines need review, too
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 17, 2018 at 7:43 am
Library Fines need review, too, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 17, 2018 at 7:43 am

Please revisit library fines and make all of them go to supporting the library instead of going to the general fund. Look at how Los Altos structures their fines, including grace periods. It’s much more about encouraging use of the library and turning in the books eventually than about shaking out tens of thousands every year for the general fund.

Everyone I have spoken to about this tells me they appreciate that the library sends a text two days in advance of when they are due. Do you know why they do this? Because way back when, I had to argue with Paula Simpson for it. It used to be that they would send a notice only two weeks after they were due. Naturally, the initial resistance to changing was disingenuous - she told me it wasn’t possible to change for notice in advance. I had to walk her through just how easy and automatic it was and how other libraries in the area sent out advance email notices. Come to find out, the pressure was from the city, that was at the time getting $60,000 in fines for the general fund annually from overdue fines.

The fee structure for libraries should be cognizant of the library’s mission and not be a revenue source for the general fund, they should also go back into the libraries.


wayne douglass
Registered user
another community
on Oct 17, 2018 at 11:48 am
wayne douglass, another community
Registered user
on Oct 17, 2018 at 11:48 am

Of course look at ridiculous fees and ridiculous laws, like the absurd insistence on "regulating" marijuana sales in Palo Alto under the guise of "local control" when the state voters have legalized it, even for non medical or "recreational" use.
Prohibition under another name, in other words. I read a story just today that Canada has legalized dope NATIONWIDE. Once again, Canada leads the way in North America.
Fortunately, anyone who really wants to use marijuana has a connection somewhere to get it. I know who they are (or were--I've been out of touch since I've been in nursing homes for the last five years), and I don't even use the stuff. In the meantime, we will waste money employing police to enforce this "regulation" instead of using them for something we REALLY need in PA, like enforcing parking restrictions in neighborhoods that have them.


Fee as deterrent
Old Palo Alto
on Oct 17, 2018 at 11:53 am
Fee as deterrent, Old Palo Alto
on Oct 17, 2018 at 11:53 am

>You don't encourage businesses by charging them a fee," Scharff said at the May meeting.

Mr Scharff should apply that idea to the failed Business Registry. You don't encourage a response to a questionaire by charging them a fee.


musical
Palo Verde
on Oct 17, 2018 at 12:20 pm
musical, Palo Verde
on Oct 17, 2018 at 12:20 pm

^ wow, the U.S. should follow Palo Alto's lead and encourage a response to the upcoming census questionnaire by charging each of us a fee. At least enough to pay for the paperwork.


wayne douglass
Registered user
another community
on Oct 17, 2018 at 3:40 pm
wayne douglass, another community
Registered user
on Oct 17, 2018 at 3:40 pm

Hey, @musical, I like your idea. I worked for the Census when I first came to California in 1980 and I could have used more money,


Library Fines
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 18, 2018 at 8:32 am
Library Fines, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 18, 2018 at 8:32 am

The city’s feigned powerlessness around enforcing business registry fees is ridiculous. If you have n alarm system, the city often “forgets” to send the permit bill in a timely way but they sure as heck know how to find individuals honeowners to fine them hundreds of dollars if they pay late for their permits.


Director of Marijuana
College Terrace
on Oct 18, 2018 at 9:05 am
Director of Marijuana, College Terrace
on Oct 18, 2018 at 9:05 am

> Of course look at ridiculous fees and ridiculous laws, like the absurd insistence on "regulating" marijuana sales in Palo Alto under the guise of "local control" when the state voters have legalized it, even for non medical or "recreational" use.

Of course. But even you have to admit...being the Director of Marijuana for the City of Alto with a $200K annual salary + benefits would draw many applicants. Add various department 'Coordinators' along with administrative staffing and now residents have another municipal mini-empire to subsidize at tax-payer expense.

It would be a fun position as well...with toking on the job privileges, various pot-related trade shows and conventions to attend etc.


senor blogger
Palo Verde
on Oct 18, 2018 at 10:21 am
senor blogger, Palo Verde
on Oct 18, 2018 at 10:21 am

The entire Municipal Code needs a complete revision, including "unmaking" some laws.
I will vote for any politician that agrees to do it.


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