Palo Alto's effort to redesign and ultimately redevelop a large portion of the Ventura neighborhood is stoking hopes among local residents about new parks, bikeways and housing developments, as well as anxieties about more cars cutting through the eclectic neighborhood just south of Oregon Expressway.
These sentiments were aired during a Tuesday community meeting on the North Ventura Coordinated Plan, an effort that the city launched last year. For the City Council and staff, the 60-acre site represents a rare opportunity: A place close to transit services that has large, underdeveloped parcels – most notably, the sprawling complex anchored by Fry's Electronics. As such, the site is identified in the city's Housing Element as one particularly ripe for housing.
In addition to bringing more housing to the neighborhood, the main goals of the North Ventura Coordinated Area Plan are to create better transportation options and add public amenities, including retail and open spaces. The area under study is bounded by El Camino Real on the west, the Caltrain corridor on the east, Page Mill Road on the north and Lambert Avenue on the south.
So far, most of the work has occurred behind the scenes, with a 14-member Working Group composed of residents, business owners and property owners discussing the possibilities over the course of three meetings. The Tuesday community meeting was an opportunity for the greater community to weigh in.
About three dozen people, many of them Ventura residents and members of the Working Group, came to Mitchell Park Community Center. Most voiced supported for improving bike paths, supporting retail, revitalizing Matadero Creek and creating more affordable housing, even if it means relaxing the city's 50-foot height limit.
But while residents broadly supported pedestrian and bike improvements, they were far less enthusiastic about cars. When polled, 69 percent of the attendees said they would support a plan that creates more connections for pedestrian and bikes but not cars; while only 12 percent they would like to see more connections for all three modes.
Many in attendance said they prefer a layout where cars primarily use roads on the periphery of the study area, namely Park Boulevard, El Camino Real and Page Mill Road.
Residents also supported more park amenities, with the restoration of the currently channelized Matadero Creek proving particularly popular. Attendees also made a case for more rooftop gardens and community gardens, particularly if new multifamily developments are approved in the neighborhood.
Overall, the vast majority of those in attendance – 89 percent – either "agreed" or "strongly agreed" with the city's goal to create in Ventura "walkable neighborhoods with multi-family housing, ground-floor retail, a public park, creek improvements and an interconnected street grid." A somewhat smaller majority of 75 percent also approved the idea of raising the height limit to support multifamily housing developments, with varying levels of enthusiasm.
When polled, 33 said they support raising the height limit, while 42 percent said they would be willing to increase the limit while expressing concern about buildings taller than three stories (21 percent said they opposed breaking the height barrier).
The residents' willingness to break the 50-foot barrier was by no means unconditional. Throughout the meeting, residents repeatedly expressed support for "affordable housing" for residents making 80 percent of area median income or less, while making clear they don't want to see much more market-rate housing. Attendees made clear that any tall buildings should be spaced out to avoid a "canyon" effect.
The sentiment was widely shared among participants, who first offered their opinions through real-time electronic votes and later discussed their positions with their tablemates.
Cedric de La Beaujardiere, representing one of the tables, spoke for many in attendance when he shared his group's views on building heights.
"If heights are increased, it should be stepped up – not just big canyons," de La Beaujardiere said. "If we have affordable housing, it should be nice designs, not cheap and ugly and dehumanizing."
There was far less consensus on what types of new retail and services the city should attract to Ventura. When asked, 26 percent gave top preference to "neighborhood-serving retail" (hardware stores, pharmacies, grocery stores and the like) and 30 percent said they would like to see more restaurants and cafes. Rebecca Parker Mankey, a Ventura resident who serves on the Working Group, said she would like to see a place where local teenagers can have coffee and hang out with friends so that they "won't have to leave town to have fun."
Another 26 percent supported the idea of creating "artist and maker spaces," or other places where people can gather, create, invent and learn.
There was one point of complete consensus on this question: The idea of attracting a boutique hotel to Ventura didn't get a single vote.
The Ventura neighborhood is only the second in Palo Alto to undergo a "coordinated area plan" – a process that includes intensive collaboration by area stakeholders and that results in zone changes and, presumably, redevelopment. The only area that has had undergone such a plan is the South of Forest Avenue area in downtown. That multiyear process occurred in two phases and was completed in 2003.
In addition to the Ventura plan, Palo Alto officials are preparing to undertake a coordinated area plan in the downtown area, an ambitious effort that will consider – among many other efforts – the reconstruction of the Transit Center and the separation of Palo Alto Avenue from the rail corridor.
While the turnout at Tuesday's meeting was somewhat modest, city officials hope to get more residents involved as the process moves along. The city plans to hold a Town Hall meeting on March 11 dedicated completely to Ventura. The City Council and the Working Group will both partake in the meeting and residents will have another chance to offer their views on the neighborhood's future.
Interim Planning Director Jonathan Lait said the goal of the meetings is to gauge the residents' interest in new housing, additional services and realignment of roads. Some areas in the plan are intended to be preserved or enhanced, he said. Others would see new uses.
"We're going into this with the expectation that there will be some changes in the neighborhood," Lait said.
Comments
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Feb 6, 2019 at 9:57 am
on Feb 6, 2019 at 9:57 am
From this article it is very evident to me that from the participants who attended, quality of life issues are very important to the residents.
I can't speak about the heights although I think it will add to the ambience if tall buildings without setbacks will make for darker streets as well as adding to the stack and pack atmosphere of new developments.
However, more retail, more open spaces, more recreational amenities, all come under the quality of life issue that adds neighborhood and community rather than a sardine can environment. It is easy to talk about adding park space without actually defining what is meant. Is this proposal for a park with green grass, space to play with frisbees, have a birthday party for children, or just a climbing frame and a grill? These are very different types of park in my mind and a better definition of open space, park space or community space needs to be invoked to make the plan understandable.
However, the real thing I see is that the community wants to be heard. They don't want more cars clogging up the streets making it more difficult for everyone. This obviously means that any housing must be designed with adequate parking for its residents as well as their visitors.
We are talking about quality of life issues for all of us in Palo Alto. We are all affected by increases in traffic, increases in more residents wanting to utilize the infrastructure and services, and the lack of things like public transportation as well as the impact on schools and children's services.
It is getting increasingly difficult to find recreation in town. Packing more population into town will not help unless plans are made that will take this into account. We need to be able to do more than work and sleep with some upscale restaurants. We need to be able to live our lives without having to depend on Amazon and Doordash becoming indispensible to how we live our lives.
This is not funny anymore.
University South
on Feb 6, 2019 at 11:06 am
on Feb 6, 2019 at 11:06 am
The plan needs to be careful with retail and services. The whole Ventura area is close to El Camino, where there is a lot of retail. Retail in general is struggling and the last thing the merchants on Cal Ave and El Camino need is more competetion.
I f the new retail needs to attract outsiders to survive, it will inevitably bring more cars to Ventura. Let's see what type of transit they can put into Ventura first. They seem to have trouble putting transit into areas of PA that need it more.
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Feb 6, 2019 at 1:22 pm
on Feb 6, 2019 at 1:22 pm
The last thing Palo Alto needs is more parks. There are already about 4,000 acres of park and dedicated space in this tiny town. What's needed is moving businesses out of town, and convincing Stanford to open a second campus somewhere so that the traffic it generates will be reduced here in Palo Alto.
Los Altos
on Feb 6, 2019 at 2:54 pm
on Feb 6, 2019 at 2:54 pm
Ventura = not much of a PA neighborhood. When I went to school in Palo Alto during the late 1950s to early 1970s, no one thought much of the area as MaxiMart was about the only reason to venture out that way...later Fry's & Gryphon.
The East Charleston corridor from Alma>ECR is another PA eyesore with some of the worst-looking front yards in the city.
Redevelopment of the entire area would be a godsend to Palo Alto providing the city planners allowed adequate spacing and lot sizes as no one wants to see wall to wall Lego architecture.
Downtown North
on Feb 6, 2019 at 5:30 pm
on Feb 6, 2019 at 5:30 pm
Despite what one commenter stated above, Palo Alto needs more urban park space. (The Bayland and Foothills park aren't urban park space). According to the comprehensive plan's guide for park space per thousand residents - Palo Alto is over 100 acres behind in providing park space for the city's residents. The Fry's site is a large open area that gives residents a break from the constant push to build massive high rise buildings and it should remain mostly the same.
This area should be maintained as an open and relaxing oasis from the massive buildup of this city. The Ventura neighborhood is also an area that needs a large park for residents to have open space and community space. Large open spaces also provide a place for resident to collect during emergencies (like earthquakes) to receive services and news.
The planning for this space has been put mostly in the hands of the property owners and developers who will push to maximize development and housing for their own gain and minimize the needs of the city residents. They need to be watched closely and the needs of Ventura residents and all PA city residents should come first, before their profits.
This area IS NOT currently zoned for housing and the massive development that they will be asking for. And there is NO REASON TO REZONE the area just so they can make multiple millions of dollars as they overcrowd and blight the neighborhood with their massive developments.
Tell our city council not to rezone to profit developers, but to demand large open park spaces and community buildings and keep the housing element small and neighborly - not massive, intrusive and industrial. We don't have to keep destroying Palo Alto just because the areas businesses and developers are demanding it.
Fight back and demand open urban space, good quality of life and a livable community.
Mountain View
on Feb 6, 2019 at 6:20 pm
on Feb 6, 2019 at 6:20 pm
Connected developers have the last say about what happens in Ventura.
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Feb 6, 2019 at 7:06 pm
on Feb 6, 2019 at 7:06 pm
Redevelopment is Good... for real-estate developers. Residents, not so much.
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Feb 7, 2019 at 12:10 pm
on Feb 7, 2019 at 12:10 pm
VTA is reducing its service in Palo Alto.
I think when something like this is talked about we need to see a list of the public transportation options that are already available in the area. These need to be the present options, not the whimsical idea of future possible options.
I remember when the JCC was being planned, there was a lot of talk about public transportation to Caltrain stations and other amenities. I am still waiting to see how the residents there get to Caltrain, downtown Palo Alto or Mountain View, or anywhere else by public transport!
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Downtown North
on Feb 8, 2019 at 12:15 am
Registered user
on Feb 8, 2019 at 12:15 am
I would say turn the entirety of the former Frys site (and it’s district) into a park, then let the developers build at the former Ventura schools site.
Don’t do anything until we decide on Cubberley.
Plan Cubberley and Ventura in tandem.
Here’s one: evict Pinewood school and build dense housing there, bitches.
I think I’m gonna run for school board and council simultaneously on that platform.
Someone smart who has lived here 100 years said Casti could move and then we could use that for housing.