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Police chief supports vax mandate after rate among officers faces scrutiny

Palo Alto council considers requiring all city workers to get vaccinated

Each vial of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is thawed then diluted with an injection of 0.9% sodium chloride, in accordance with FDA guidelines. Photo by Federica Armstrong.

As Palo Alto moves ahead with reopening in-person services at City Hall, the city is considering whether to institute a COVID-19 vaccine requirement for city employees, a move that has already been made by Santa Clara County, San Francisco and other jurisdictions around the state.

The topic of a vaccine requirement was among those that the City Council was scheduled discuss on Monday night in a closed session, City Manager Ed Shikada confirmed. The discussion pertains to all major labor groups, including the police and firefighter unions, the Service Employee International Union, Local 521, and the Utilities Management and Professional Association of Palo Alto, according to the agenda. It was be the first item that the council took up after its summer recess, a period that has seen an escalation in COVID-19 cases.

The discussion, which concluded with no reportable action, followed reports that the city's Police Department has been lagging behind other area emergency response agencies when it comes to vaccinations. While 97% of the city's Fire Department has reported being vaccinated, only 60% of the police officers reported having done so as of June 18, according to a county survey. By contrast, Mountain View police had a vaccination rate of 73% as of late June (it rose to 84% as of July 22).

When asked about the department's low vaccination rate, Palo Alto Police Chief Robert Jonsen said he believes the percentage of officers who are vaccinated is higher than 60%. Some officers, he noted, may have been vaccinated but are choosing to protect their right to privacy. In fact, 24% of the officers surveyed declined to state their vaccination status (only 6% reported they were not vaccinated).

Jonsen noted that various jurisdictions are now trying to raise their vaccination rates by requiring vaccinations.

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"If the city of Palo Alto does that, that will change our number as well," Jonsen said.

Not everyone is thrilled about the new mandates. San Francisco's announcement of a vaccine requirement has triggered a backlash from the San Francisco Deputy Sheriffs' Association, which issued a statement claiming that a vaccine mandate will require some deputy sheriffs to retire early or seek employment elsewhere. The statement noted that most deputy sheriffs are vaccinated, though approximately 160 out of 700 "prefer to mask and test weekly instead of being vaccinated due to religious and other beliefs."

Jonsen said that he would support a vaccine mandate, though he noted that the new policy should make accommodations for those with "legitimate exceptions." The county's vaccine mandate, for instance, allows county employees to request exemptions for religious or medical reasons.

"In a perfect world, I support it," Jonsen said of a vaccine mandate. "But if people choose not to do it for various reasons — because there are legitimate exceptions — that they're at least willing to have mandatory testing done each week."

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Police chief supports vax mandate after rate among officers faces scrutiny

Palo Alto council considers requiring all city workers to get vaccinated

As Palo Alto moves ahead with reopening in-person services at City Hall, the city is considering whether to institute a COVID-19 vaccine requirement for city employees, a move that has already been made by Santa Clara County, San Francisco and other jurisdictions around the state.

The topic of a vaccine requirement was among those that the City Council was scheduled discuss on Monday night in a closed session, City Manager Ed Shikada confirmed. The discussion pertains to all major labor groups, including the police and firefighter unions, the Service Employee International Union, Local 521, and the Utilities Management and Professional Association of Palo Alto, according to the agenda. It was be the first item that the council took up after its summer recess, a period that has seen an escalation in COVID-19 cases.

The discussion, which concluded with no reportable action, followed reports that the city's Police Department has been lagging behind other area emergency response agencies when it comes to vaccinations. While 97% of the city's Fire Department has reported being vaccinated, only 60% of the police officers reported having done so as of June 18, according to a county survey. By contrast, Mountain View police had a vaccination rate of 73% as of late June (it rose to 84% as of July 22).

When asked about the department's low vaccination rate, Palo Alto Police Chief Robert Jonsen said he believes the percentage of officers who are vaccinated is higher than 60%. Some officers, he noted, may have been vaccinated but are choosing to protect their right to privacy. In fact, 24% of the officers surveyed declined to state their vaccination status (only 6% reported they were not vaccinated).

Jonsen noted that various jurisdictions are now trying to raise their vaccination rates by requiring vaccinations.

"If the city of Palo Alto does that, that will change our number as well," Jonsen said.

Not everyone is thrilled about the new mandates. San Francisco's announcement of a vaccine requirement has triggered a backlash from the San Francisco Deputy Sheriffs' Association, which issued a statement claiming that a vaccine mandate will require some deputy sheriffs to retire early or seek employment elsewhere. The statement noted that most deputy sheriffs are vaccinated, though approximately 160 out of 700 "prefer to mask and test weekly instead of being vaccinated due to religious and other beliefs."

Jonsen said that he would support a vaccine mandate, though he noted that the new policy should make accommodations for those with "legitimate exceptions." The county's vaccine mandate, for instance, allows county employees to request exemptions for religious or medical reasons.

"In a perfect world, I support it," Jonsen said of a vaccine mandate. "But if people choose not to do it for various reasons — because there are legitimate exceptions — that they're at least willing to have mandatory testing done each week."

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No heat
Registered user
Fairmeadow
on Aug 9, 2021 at 9:31 pm
No heat, Fairmeadow
Registered user
on Aug 9, 2021 at 9:31 pm

The reality is that the intense antivax attitudes by the police are correlated with the racist and violent propensities which have been costing our city millions in settlements to the victims.

If a vaccination requirement sends those cops elsewhere, we'll have more money in the city budget the services we actually want.

I urge city council to follow the County Health Officer's recommendations and implement a vaccination requirement for city employees ASAP.


Local
Registered user
Los Altos
on Aug 10, 2021 at 5:48 am
Local, Los Altos
Registered user
on Aug 10, 2021 at 5:48 am

Good point above. While we are always sad to lose employees, those that are fiercely anti-vax are honestly not ideal employees. I understand medical and sincere religious exemptions, but others that refuse to vaccinate are probably likely to hold other unpleasant views.


Sam Taylor
Registered user
another community
on Aug 10, 2021 at 10:19 am
Sam Taylor, another community
Registered user
on Aug 10, 2021 at 10:19 am

Vaccinations for those dealing directly with the public should be seriously considered and encouraged but not mandated as it is a violation of one's Constitutional rights most notably 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.'

If one feels or believes that mandatory vaccinations infringe upon these rights, then they should retain the option of going forward with the innoculations or withholding from them.

This is America and not a police state.


Elle Taylor
Registered user
another community
on Aug 10, 2021 at 12:27 pm
Elle Taylor, another community
Registered user
on Aug 10, 2021 at 12:27 pm

The Covid-19 virus is mutating at such a rapid pace that scientists and immunologists will have a difficult time keeping up with the variants.

After two shots of Pfizer/Moderna or one shot of the J&J vaccines, the potential continuance and recommended requirements of having to get additional booster shots is going to get old and the public revolt against all public health mandates will begin to unfold even more so.

Enough is enough...get your vaccinations and don't worry about the future.

We are all going to die eventually and from something we may (or may not) have any control over.

The sky is not falling.


Online Name
Registered user
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Aug 10, 2021 at 12:28 pm
Online Name, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
Registered user
on Aug 10, 2021 at 12:28 pm

If they can't protect the public by being vaccinated, they shouldn't be there. What does their right to privacy have to do with anything?? That's totally hedging the issue!


Barron Parker Too
Registered user
Barron Park
on Aug 10, 2021 at 12:45 pm
Barron Parker Too, Barron Park
Registered user
on Aug 10, 2021 at 12:45 pm

Always ugly to see such knee-jerk anti-police comments! They represent a tiny, noisy, rude fraction of the readers.

And then there is the missing 10%: 60% vax'd, 6% not vax'd, 24% decline to state. Gennady needs to check his arithmetic.

But it does seem that there is a problem when 24% of the officers are unwilling to state their vax status INTERNALLY. In such a situation, to get accurate data, it needs to be collected anonymously.


MBH
Registered user
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Aug 10, 2021 at 1:07 pm
MBH, Duveneck/St. Francis
Registered user
on Aug 10, 2021 at 1:07 pm

Get your vaccinations. If everyone had done so, we would not be dealing with rafts of sick children and hospitals crammed full of Covid patients. Not to mention increasing numbers of deaths. Other than a truly viable medical reason not to get vaccinated, the rest of the reasons being trotted out by deniers are bogus. How many more people have to die? And suffer for months if not years from this virus?


Bette Layne
Registered user
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Aug 10, 2021 at 1:08 pm
Bette Layne, Duveneck/St. Francis
Registered user
on Aug 10, 2021 at 1:08 pm

Medical and religious considerations aside, maybe the estimated 40% of unvaccinated PAPD officers are unconcerned with the pandemic and its potential ramifications.


Corey Levens
Registered user
Green Acres
on Aug 10, 2021 at 6:08 pm
Corey Levens, Green Acres
Registered user
on Aug 10, 2021 at 6:08 pm

There is absolutely no reason or excuse, legal or otherwise, for not mandating that all Palo Alto employees be vaccinated. It is for the safety and security of our community. Anyone claiming that it is a violation of one's constitutional rights has no understanding of the Constitution or what it means to live in a polity governed by our Constitution.


John
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Adobe-Meadow
on Aug 11, 2021 at 6:35 am
John, Adobe-Meadow
Registered user
on Aug 11, 2021 at 6:35 am
Neal
Registered user
Community Center
on Aug 11, 2021 at 9:25 am
Neal, Community Center
Registered user
on Aug 11, 2021 at 9:25 am

For your information, the phase "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is part of the Declaration of Independence. It is not part of the U.S. Constitution and therefore has no legal standing. BTW the United States of America is not a police state.


Wyatt Richter
Registered user
Menlo Park
on Aug 11, 2021 at 11:47 am
Wyatt Richter, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Aug 11, 2021 at 11:47 am

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Novelera
Registered user
Midtown
on Aug 11, 2021 at 3:22 pm
Novelera, Midtown
Registered user
on Aug 11, 2021 at 3:22 pm

Wonder if the number of anti-vax cops also includes the 5 snowflakes who were "triggered" by the Black Lives Matter mural and had to sue to get funds to pay their therapists.


Novelera
Registered user
Midtown
on Aug 11, 2021 at 4:15 pm
Novelera, Midtown
Registered user
on Aug 11, 2021 at 4:15 pm

@Neal Loved your reminder to Sam Taylor that "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" is NOT in the U.S. Constitution. I myself have a copy on my bookshelf, and I wonder how many ranting about some clauses actually have ever read it.


Rebecca Eisenberg
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Aug 11, 2021 at 7:35 pm
Rebecca Eisenberg, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Aug 11, 2021 at 7:35 pm

Why would anyone rely on an unvaccinated police officer to protect their safety? Basically, if anyone seeks help from the police, why should they be forced to risk the lives of their children who are too young to be vaccinated, or their elderly parents who can't be vaccinated due to immunosuppression related to many conditions associated with aging?

City Council, do your job. Follow the PAUSD School Board's recent actions: public employees must be vaccinated or else test every day.

It's common sense. Vaccination by *everyone* medically capable is the only existing way to beat the pandemic and ensure the safety of our children and other loved ones for whom the vaccine is not available. City council: do you care if our babies live or die? Is the convenience of an officer paid by US, and sworn to protect us, truly more important than the actual safety of the people whom these officers are sworn to protect? It's madness.

Do better.


VaxMan
Registered user
Menlo Park
on Aug 12, 2021 at 7:38 am
VaxMan, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Aug 12, 2021 at 7:38 am

The viral mutations and breakthrough infections currently at play (regardless of whether one is vaccinated or not) makes the Covid SARS-2 virus a formidable public health adversary to overcome.

With talk of a 3rd booster shot now under discussion, the coronavirus is pretty much here to stay in varying degrees as herd immunity is now an impossibility due to emerging variants (i.e. Delta, Lamda et al).

There are no guarantees in life and the vaccines are merely a band-aid for what has now become a global hemmorage.

Nevertheless, get vaccinated ASAP as you have nothing to lose and the shots are free.


Nowhere To Run
Registered user
another community
on Aug 12, 2021 at 10:02 am
Nowhere To Run, another community
Registered user
on Aug 12, 2021 at 10:02 am

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Nancy Lowe
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College Terrace
on Aug 12, 2021 at 2:27 pm
Nancy Lowe, College Terrace
Registered user
on Aug 12, 2021 at 2:27 pm
There goes the neighborhood
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Aug 12, 2021 at 2:57 pm
There goes the neighborhood, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Aug 12, 2021 at 2:57 pm

Imagine you carelessly don't come to full stop at an arterial stop sign. An alert Palo Alto policeman pulls you over to give you a ticket. Stay in the car, hands on the wheel as the policeman comes to your car window, taps it and leans in to ask for your license and proof of insurance.
You have a 4 in 10 chance in this face-to-face encounter that the policeman is unvaccinated or "declines to state". Unacceptable odds! Who know his Covid carrier status or that of others he has dealt with during his shift.

The City Council and City Manager are on the right track to require vaccination of the City staff dealing directly with the public


Dennis Petry
Registered user
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 13, 2021 at 8:12 am
Dennis Petry, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
Registered user
on Aug 13, 2021 at 8:12 am

Unless a PAPD officer is fully and verifiably vaccinated + wearing a face mask, any citation should be dismissed in a court of law.

And any potential misdemeanor/felony arrest should only be conducted by officers meeting these Covid-related guidelines as well.

Suspects should not be unnecessarily exposed to Covid-19 and their attorneys (upon confirmation of an unvaxed arresting officer) should reserve the right to sue the city for health endangerment and to have the case dropped.


BobH
Registered user
Palo Verde
on Aug 13, 2021 at 3:09 pm
BobH, Palo Verde
Registered user
on Aug 13, 2021 at 3:09 pm

Yes, all city employees should be vaccinated! It's not that complicated. They all interact with the public, probably more so than most individuals.

I am please the fire department has high vaccination rates. I am very disappointed that the police department doesn't have high vaccination rates. The city could should require all employees to be vaccinated.


Bill Bucy
Registered user
Barron Park
on Aug 15, 2021 at 8:49 am
Bill Bucy, Barron Park
Registered user
on Aug 15, 2021 at 8:49 am

I've yet to read of a legitimate medical reason for not being vaccinated. Assuming I didn't miss something then declining to get jabbed is merely an individual decision.

No right granted citizens in the constitution or by common practice is absolute. The pandemic is a perfect example of an event that demands personal wants and needs be deemed secondary to the common good.


Online Name
Registered user
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Aug 15, 2021 at 10:31 am
Online Name, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
Registered user
on Aug 15, 2021 at 10:31 am

Tick tock, tick tock. Palo Alto "leaders" -- time's a'wasting to get folks vaccinated.


Pops9
Registered user
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Aug 15, 2021 at 8:33 pm
Pops9, Duveneck/St. Francis
Registered user
on Aug 15, 2021 at 8:33 pm

My understanding is that Palo Alto pays well above the mean in police salaries. I assume that means that the city attempts to hire and develop officers with better judgment than departments that pay average or worse salaries. It appears that our higher wages are not translating to good judgment, at least for the 40% that are either unvaccinated or seem to have a problem stating their status.

Palo Alto's police department has also talked about the importance of community policing. What is obvious given Palo Alto's vaccination rates is that a significant slice of the police department, at least in this instance, holds very different views than the community.

If the city council chooses to impose a mandate, perhaps that will filter out officers with less than ideal judgment and/or divergent views from the community.


PST
Registered user
South of Midtown
on Aug 16, 2021 at 11:28 am
PST, South of Midtown
Registered user
on Aug 16, 2021 at 11:28 am

The time for consideration of requiring all city employees to be vaccinated has come and gone months ago. At the very least we deserve an explanation from any city council member who has not agreed to act on this yesterday. There must be no further delays without explanation. Those employees who refuse can go work somewhere else.


Cary Rosenzweig
Registered user
South of Midtown
on Aug 18, 2021 at 10:24 am
Cary Rosenzweig, South of Midtown
Registered user
on Aug 18, 2021 at 10:24 am

I’m a 26-year resident of Palo Alto. It’s embarrassing to have city employees, especially police employees, who refuse to be vaccinated during this pandemic. Vaccination is both to protect oneself and to protect others.

It is a contradiction for some police to claim to protect the public while threatening it with increased odds of infection. Once again, a minority of cops defame the good, responsible cops.

I support mandates for all city employees to be vaccinated. Enough with the crazy anti-vax conspiracy theorists. True medical exceptions, of course, should be considered.


nac
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Aug 19, 2021 at 4:01 am
nac, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Aug 19, 2021 at 4:01 am

It's really surprising that this is still being mulled after such a long time. Time to just get on with it and stop mulling.


Chase Bellamy
Registered user
Community Center
on Aug 19, 2021 at 7:36 am
Chase Bellamy, Community Center
Registered user
on Aug 19, 2021 at 7:36 am

With the recent CDC recommendation that fully vaccinated individuals receive a booster shot 8 months later for added protection against the Delta variant and subsequent viral mutations, maybe this reluctance to get innoculated is a humanitarian gesture on the part of law enforcement...to ensure that the vaccine inventories remain readily available and accessable to the general public?


Lillian Steinberg
Registered user
Professorville
on Aug 19, 2021 at 9:27 am
Lillian Steinberg, Professorville
Registered user
on Aug 19, 2021 at 9:27 am

> a humanitarian gesture on the part of law enforcement...to ensure that the vaccine inventories remain readily available and accessable to the general public?

The World Health Organization is
already condemning the United States for hording Covid-19 vaccines to implement the next round of vaccinations (boosters) while many 3rd world inhabitants have yet to receive their first shot.


Roger Azarian
Registered user
Los Altos
on Aug 19, 2021 at 3:14 pm
Roger Azarian, Los Altos
Registered user
on Aug 19, 2021 at 3:14 pm

How about this...the U.S. government sets aside three doses of Covid-19 vax for each citizen/resident BUT if they chose to go unvaxed, their vaccine allotment is passed on to someone living in the 3rd world.

We'll give the unvaxed a net 30 days to get fully innoculated and if they opt out, their vaccines go elsewhere.


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