With the future of Ventura's most famous property hanging in the balance, a group of residents urged city officials Wednesday, July 12, to halt the proposed redevelopment and partial demolition of the old cannery that housed Fry's Electronics.
The City Council signaled its support for the redevelopment at 340 Portage Ave. in June 2022, when it tentatively endorsed a development agreement with The Sobrato Organization. The agreement, which is now going through the city's review process, would allow Sobrato to maintain research-and-development use in much of the historic building, which for decades has been zoned for multi-family housing.
The agreement, which is now being vetted by the Planning and Transportation Commission, also calls for demolishing a portion of the building near Park Boulevard so that 74 townhome can be built there.
The commission began its formal review of the development agreement on Wednesday and opted to delay its decision until its next meeting, on July 26. The project already secured approval from the city's Historic Resources Board in May and the Architectural Review Board in June. The planning commission vote is the penultimate step for Sobrato before the project heads to the council for final approval.
Much like at prior hearings, many of the concerns from the public focused on the historical importance of cannery building, which industrial pioneer Thomas Foon Chew constructed more than a century ago and which at one point served as one of the nation's largest canneries.
The city's consultants Page & Turnbull have called the cannery "a rare surviving example of Palo Alto's and Santa Clara County's agricultural past" and concluded that it could be eligible for the California Register of Historical Places.
That would change once the redevelopment moves forward and 84,000 square feet of the building are razed to make way for townhomes. The environmental review for the Sobrato project concluded that the redevelopment would cause a "significant and unavoidable impact" on the city's historic resources because of the partial demolition of the Fry's building.
Not everyone is thrilled about that. Ventura resident Becky Sanders was among those who voiced opposition to the removal of a portion of the old cannery. The city should celebrate the building as an "amazing Chinese-American historical resource" and make it a "flagship part" of the North Ventura Coordinated Area Plan, she said.
"We have not seen any data or evidence that something can’t be done with this building except knock down a third of it," Sanders said.
"There’s no way we cannot find a solution to make the applicant meet their financial goals and to have this amazing Chinese-American historical cultural resource be a flagship part of the North Ventura Coordinated Area Plan," Sanders said.
Jeff Levinsky, a critic of the project, told the commission Wednesday that the cannery building represents an "incredible part of history right in our backyard that could inspire the current generation and those to come."
He suggested considering a different design that would retain the entire building and use some of it for parking. This, he noted, would obviate the need to build a parking garage just north of the Fry's building, as Sobrato's plans call for.
"The entire building -- its magnitude, its grand scale – is part of what makes it important," Levinsky said.
The development agreement between the city and Sobrato recognized the historical significance of the cannery by requiring the developer to preserve the most notable features of the building: its two monitor roofs.
But whether or not the public will actually be able to gaze at these roofs – as Fry's shoppers were able to do any time they looked up – remains up for debate. Sobrato's plans limit public access to a small area in the front of the cannery, which would house a small retail operation.
The Architectural Review Board broadly agreed last month that this falls well short and insisted that the public be given greater access to the roof.
Sobrato's architect Evan Sockalosky, principle at Arc Tec, told the commission Wednesday that the design of the project has been refined to maintain the building's historic integrity and celebrate the structural and spatial importance of the monitor building.
The developer worked with Architectural Resource Group, which specializes in historical preservation, to ensure the new design complies with historic guidelines. And the design has been further refined after feedback from the historical and architectural boards, Sockalosky told the commission.
"It's gone through significant evolution since inception," he said.
The project has deep implications well beyond the immediate site. The 14.65-acre property that includes the Fry's site is at the heart of a 60-acre portion of Ventura for which Palo Alto is preparing a coordinated area plan. The North Ventura Coordinated Area Plan calls for converting office spaces to housing (especially affordable housing) and adding about 530 new dwellings to the planning area.
The plan, much like the development agreement, is nearing the finish line in Palo Alto's approval process. Composed after nearly two years of community meetings, it proposes "adaptive reuse" for the Fry's building, with some of it potentially accommodating housing.
Claire Raybould, the city's project planner for the Sobrato development, acknowledged Wednesday that there are some aspects of the project that don't fully align with the coordinated area plan. That said, the project advances some key goals of the plan in important ways, particularly when it comes to improving bicycle and pedestrian connectivity
If approved, the project would put an end to a decades-long debate about the future of the Fry's building. Despite the property's zoning for multi-family residences, the City Council decided in 1995 to allow Fry's to continue to operate there, given that the retailer was a major revenue generator for Palo Alto. But the city stipulated that the site would be converted to housing by 2019.
Then the council decided in 2006 to remove that deadline, allowing Fry's to remain indefinitely.
That settled the matter until 2019, when Fry's closed down. The departure of the retailer kicked off a protracted dispute between the city and Sobrato over what uses should be allowed at the cannery.
The development agreement would end the dispute by formally abandoning the idea of putting housing into the cannery building and allowing Sobrato to retain its existing research-and-development use indefinitely.
Sobrato would also be able to convert a building at 3250 Park Blvd. from automotive to research-and-development use and to retain office use in a building at 3201 Ash St.
In exchange, Sobrato would provide 3.25 acres of land to the city elsewhere on the site for a future affordable housing project and a small park. It would also contribute $5 million for the project as part of the development agreement.
Tim Steele, senior vice president for real estate development at Sobrato, said payment and the donation of land would occur even if the entire housing development isn't completed within the next decade. The townhouse project, he said, would be built in multiple phases.
"Even before the townhomes are poised to move forward with permits, we'll also be donating the land for the affordable housing and for the park," Steele said.
The commission limited its discussion to clarifying questions and brief comments. Vice Chair Bryna Chang questioned the proposal in the development agreement to rezone numerous sites at the Fry's campus to "service commercial" (CS) which she noted is generally geared toward drivers. That, she said, conflicts with community's proposed vision of Ventura as a more walkable neighborhood.
"I wonder why we'd say we want it to be a place where everyone arrives by car when it's kind of antithetical to what we want as a city," Chang said.
Commissioner Alan Akin said he likes the design of the building and lauded the fact that the project will bring much needed housing.
"Nevertheless, there is a question of whether we're really getting enough return for the loss of the building and the loss of the area," Akin said.
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St. Claire Gardens
on Jul 13, 2023 at 10:47 am
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on Jul 13, 2023 at 10:47 am
I’ll keep my comment brief. Knock it down. Let’s move on.
The building is junk and has no use. Take a photo if you want a memory scrap book.
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Mayfield
on Jul 13, 2023 at 11:28 am
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on Jul 13, 2023 at 11:28 am
I’ve lived in the area for fifty years. Never once did I look up in wonder at the cannery’s architecture—from inside nor from the outside, and I’m an architecture buff. Yes, there should be a monument to Mr. Chew but we should use that whole area for our desperately needed housing. A statue with an explanation of the history would be a stronger and more noticeable recognition of the site’s Chinese American heritage.
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South of Midtown
on Jul 13, 2023 at 1:13 pm
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on Jul 13, 2023 at 1:13 pm
Tear the entire thing down and replace with housing. Honor Mr. Chew at the new history museum and/ or with a statue and/or plaque in the park in the Ventura community.
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Ventura
on Jul 13, 2023 at 1:36 pm
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on Jul 13, 2023 at 1:36 pm
As a Ventura apartment renter, I have no problem with the former Fry's building being retrofitted to accommodate additional housing.
It has a historical significance dating back to its days as a cannery and the building is just as significant as any of Birge Clark's Palo Alto classic designs.
Lastly, it is not for Palo Alto residents residing outside of the Ventura neighborhood to have any say in the matter.
Outside opinions are OK but let's just leave them at.
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Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Jul 13, 2023 at 3:01 pm
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on Jul 13, 2023 at 3:01 pm
Please, please progress is needed in Palo Alto!!! I agree with everyone who says the building needs to be removed in its entirety and a commemorative plaque tastefully displayed nearby. Palo Alto needs to become the bastion of humanity as it once was instead of wallowing in the past.
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another community
on Jul 13, 2023 at 4:36 pm
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on Jul 13, 2023 at 4:36 pm
"The departure of the retailer kicked off a protracted dispute between the city and Sobrato over what uses should be allowed at the cannery."
It hasn't been a cannery since 1941. It is of no historical value. The "monitor window" scheme is a joke. They are just glass. The building is in a state of decay. I am not sure that the windows can be lifted, as-is, and placed on top of a new building. It would be very iffy structurally, to try to integrate new construction with very old, weathered, and decaying materials. I'm sure it's been done before at other places, but that's not "The Palo Alto Way". We don't do anything without greasing a few palms on the way to the construction site, to help the developers. And the City Manager, et al.
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Midtown
on Jul 13, 2023 at 4:49 pm
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on Jul 13, 2023 at 4:49 pm
What next? Historical status for ARCO gas stations?
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Community Center
on Jul 14, 2023 at 7:49 am
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on Jul 14, 2023 at 7:49 am
"It has a historical significance dating back to its days as a cannery and the building is just as significant as any of Birge Clark's Palo Alto classic designs."
Why not remodel the Fry's building to accommodate additional housing?
The front could be redesigned to resemble the extended colonnade at Mission San Juan Bautista with Birge Clark inspired 'retro- Spanish colonial' accents.
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Midtown
on Jul 14, 2023 at 8:36 am
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on Jul 14, 2023 at 8:36 am
Let’s build some more commercial real estate so the building stays empty for a few more years! The parking should also be considered historic as over the past 30 years thousands of people parked their cars there including myself! So far the best idea I’ve heard for Palo Alto to meet its 2030 housing quota is to build in Mountain View.
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another community
on Jul 14, 2023 at 9:49 am
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on Jul 14, 2023 at 9:49 am
Since Palo Alto prides itself on diversity and inclusion, another option would be to convert the Fry's building into a multi-cultural food court. There is plenty of parking and interior square footage to accommodate such an undertaking.
Palo Alto is known for its plethora of dining establishments because people come here primarily to eat and to buy expensive consumer goods.
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College Terrace
on Jul 14, 2023 at 1:04 pm
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on Jul 14, 2023 at 1:04 pm
I agree with the thoughtful remarks by Jeff Levinsky. Yes this historic structure
can be retained with a parking structure
underground.
Thomas Foon Chew was a multimillionaire entrepreneur who succeeded against staggering odds including racism. Palo Alto is not only known as a college town and research park.
Chew’s Bay Side Cannery supplied the US military. Santa Clara Valley fed the country well before the Sacramento Valley. Why did Steve Jobs have an orchard next to his home? Why did he have his Space Ship include apricot trees? He was raised in Santa Clara Valley. He loved the orchards.
I urge the celebrated developer Sobrato to respect Palo Alto’s history and ask that he support the community in retaining the Cannery. There are design alternatives that his team can implement to achieve that goal. Jeff Levinsky has suggested one mentioned above.
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Downtown North
on Jul 14, 2023 at 2:13 pm
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on Jul 14, 2023 at 2:13 pm
The building is not significant, but the man behind it should be honored.
Naming a park or school after him - similar to Juana Briones, who has both! - would be fitting recognition for both his personal contributions and Palo Alto's current Chinese community.
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Old Palo Alto
on Jul 14, 2023 at 2:34 pm
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on Jul 14, 2023 at 2:34 pm
"Ventura resident Becky Sanders was among those who voiced opposition to the removal of a portion of the old cannery. The city should celebrate the building as an 'amazing Chinese-American historical resource'"
Whitesplaining what's historical to Chinese-Americans?
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Old Palo Alto
on Jul 14, 2023 at 2:41 pm
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on Jul 14, 2023 at 2:41 pm
Concurring with ALB...if the old and dilapidated Roth Building can be restored, why not the cannery?
Hopefully ethnocentrism/racism is not a part of the decision-making process....in other words, restoring a Birge Clark design while destroying a historically significant building owned and operated by a successful and noteworthy Chinese American citizen of Palo Alto.
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Barron Park
on Jul 19, 2023 at 9:15 am
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on Jul 19, 2023 at 9:15 am
I refuse to believe Mr. Chew's contributions to our community are so trivial that they can be memorialized by preserving -- even in part -- an undistinguished, crumbling factory building. There are far better ways to honor the man and his legacy.
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Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 19, 2023 at 9:28 am
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on Jul 19, 2023 at 9:28 am
This decision should be decided by the residents of the Ventura neighborhood.
If the goal is to remove mixed-usage and designate Ventura as a purely residential area, then ALL of the commercial buildings along Park Boulevard and Lambert Avenue should be removed in their entirety to make way for high-rise residential dwellings.
The only question...why can't these architects come up with better designs other than the mundane, boxy-looking buildings that Sean to be permeating the midpeninsula.
Didn't they go to architectural school?
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Palo Verde
on Jul 19, 2023 at 10:16 am
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on Jul 19, 2023 at 10:16 am
When even PAW's comment section is an almost unbroken string of voices saying "just blow the thing up," you can be pretty darn sure the preservationists have lost the plot.
It was a cannery. A cannery. Just blow it up, already.
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Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Jul 19, 2023 at 12:09 pm
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on Jul 19, 2023 at 12:09 pm
Perhaps the best alternative is to tear the Fry's building down and for Sobranto to rename the housing development Chew Estates.
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Old Palo Alto
on Jul 19, 2023 at 6:18 pm
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on Jul 19, 2023 at 6:18 pm
The more I think about it, the more I'm appalled that NIMBYs are cynically using Thomas Chew as a way to block development.
This fake appreciation of his life is only good for alleviating white guilt while keeping your property values high by ossifying Palo Alto.
A two-fer!
Frankly disgusting..
"The only question...why can't these architects come up with better designs other than the mundane, boxy-looking buildings that Sean to be permeating the midpeninsula.
Didn't they go to architectural school?"
I'm sure the same was said about the Eichlers when they were first built.
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Portola Valley
on Jul 20, 2023 at 4:30 pm
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on Jul 20, 2023 at 4:30 pm
Speaking of architecture, another option would be to replace the Fry's building with a design called Hudson River Bracketed. This architectural concept incorporates a pagoda style roof (which would honor Mr. Chew) with a Tuscany style dwelling.
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another community
on Jul 20, 2023 at 5:59 pm
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on Jul 20, 2023 at 5:59 pm
ALB --- so what? My grandmother brought a piece of root from a vineyard in the old country and planted it here, and it is still flourishing. The house is crumbling beneath it, since the vine has been allowed to overtake the roof.
Which should we save ... a piece of the root or the house? Both are "historic".
The State of California wouldn't even exist without the discovery of gold. You don't see many gold mines preserved. Sutter's mill's existence now is a fabrication taken from drawings and an old photograph. It's in the middle of nowhere. Palo Alto is an urban area, and just ask some of the people (and those who will live in it after conversion to housing) who live on the street where the cannery was how they will feel about having tour buses driving by every hour to see the amazing window treatment. NIMBY!!!
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Portola Valley
on Jul 21, 2023 at 7:31 am
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on Jul 21, 2023 at 7:31 am
@MyFeelz, then why restore the old Roth building? Wouldn't it be more prudent to tear down that crumbling rat trap and build a new facility to house the history museum?
If a dilapidated old Birge Clark design can be left standing and retrofitted, applying the same to the Chew building should be easy...unless a race card is being played.
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Woodside
on Jul 21, 2023 at 8:22 am
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on Jul 21, 2023 at 8:22 am
Structural soundness of the building should also be considered if it is to be restored or saved.
And the same applies to some of the many rundown homes in Palo Alto.
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Midtown
on Jul 21, 2023 at 4:24 pm
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on Jul 21, 2023 at 4:24 pm
• The State of California wouldn't even exist without the discovery of gold.
^ Not so. The agricultural industry and Silicon Valley put California on the map.
There are other former U.S. territories and republics that became American states due to attributes other than gold, including Alaska.
If gold was a key determinant for U.S. statehood then places like Egypt and Rhodesia would be part of the United States.
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another community
on Jul 21, 2023 at 9:12 pm
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on Jul 21, 2023 at 9:12 pm
Thomas and Michelle, are you a set, like his and hers towels?
Tom, a race card IS being played. But you have to use a scorecard to figure out who is using which card to their advantage. There are jokers and aces. Do the math.
And Michy (I feel like I already know you from other threads, so let's be friends, I'll be feelz and you be michy) ... Eichler, Eichler, Eichler.
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Barron Park
on Jul 22, 2023 at 8:50 am
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on Jul 22, 2023 at 8:50 am
* Eichler, Eichler, Eichler.
Upon moving to the bay area, I was surprised to see Eichlers not only in Palo Alto but also in Mountain View and Ladera.
The Ladera Eichlers are much nicer than the ones in Palo Alto and Mountain View and I assume this is because Ladera is a wealthier community.