Seeking to protect architecturally significant buildings from demolition, Palo Alto officials are preparing to notify about 150 property owners that their homes are eligible for "historical" designation -- whether or not they want it.
The city is now embarking on two separate but related efforts, each of which may have major ramifications on what counts as "historic." One component involves examining the roughly 150 properties that had been identified more than 20 years ago as eligible for "historical" status and considering whether some should be added or removed. Another pertains to changing local law to make sure that the city's criteria for historic structures includes buildings associated with famous people and events.
Both efforts are expected to accelerate in the coming weeks, as planning staff and consultants advance their ongoing effort to update the historical inventory. A key milestone arrived last month, when the city's consulting firm, Page & Turnbull, released a "reconnaissance survey" that lays the foundation for the update. This involved looking at the 154 properties that had previously been identified in a 2001 survey as well as 13 properties that were subsequently found to be eligible for listing on the California Register of Historical Resources.
The survey found that 13 of the properties on the list had been demolished. Three others were altered so much that they have lost their historic integrity and are no longer eligible for the state registry. The remaining 148 were found to retain their historic significance and integrity, the Page & Turnbull report states.
The Historic Resources Board discussed the survey at its Aug. 24 meeting and largely supported the update effort. Board member Margaret Wimmer said the goal is to "protect and preserve" significant buildings.
"It's just sad to see a lot of these resources lost and replaced with a big glass box that is impersonal and out of scale for what was a very charming downtown and city. … But it's also important for the public not to see these as something that will prevent you from doing something in the future," Wimmer said. "It's just our step of preserving Palo Alto, because we all love Palo Alto."
Not everyone, however, is loving the new effort. Lad Wilson, whose family has owned two properties on High Street for more than 60 years, was less than thrilled to see both listed in the survey as eligible for the National Register. The two homes on the 300 block of High were constructed in 1901 and 1902. Wilson said his family has been renting them out for decades to local employees at below market rate.
"I have very few transitions. People are with me for a long time – one person for more than 30 years," Wilson told the board.
Wilson said he is thinking of redeveloping the properties to create more workforce housing and pitched "suite living" complexes in which five bedrooms share a common kitchen and two bathrooms.
"If we do a redevelopment, I'm going to be more focused on exactly what I do now: cohabitation," Wilson said.
But having a property listed as historical, while a point of pride for many residents, is necessarily (and intentionally) a barrier to redevelopment. At the very least, property owners would be required to undertake environmental analyses and come up with ways to mitigate the loss of a historical resource. Wilson, whose properties are located near the downtown transit station, said Palo Alto should create exceptions for cases like his, where old buildings are torn down and replaced with workforce housing.
Darlene Yaplee, whose property is also on the inventory, urged the city to do a better job in communicating with residents about what exactly the historic eligibility entails. While the recent survey concluded that her home is on the list of properties eligible for a historic listing, she was also notified that she is currently not bound by the city's historical ordinances, which makes things confusing.
She urged the city to create a category for people whose homes are eligible for the inventory but who do not want to have them listed as historical, particularly if these homes fall short of the standards for the top two categories.
"I think there's a lot of language that's used that could be confusing for residents," Yaplee said.
In addition to refining its inventory, Palo Alto officials are interested in redefining what it means to be a historical building under local law. The result of this exercise could lead to more buildings qualifying for a historical listing.
Currently, municipal code classifies historical buildings into four categories. Category 1 is reserved for buildings of national or state importance because they represent "meritorious works of the best architects, outstanding examples of a specific architectural style, or illustrate stylistic development of architecture in the United States." Category 2, which covers "major buildings of regional importance," similarly focus on structures designed by top architects but unlike in the top category, these buildings may have experienced some exterior modifications since construction.
Buildings listed in Categories 3 and 4, by contrast, are "contributing buildings that represent "a good local example of an architectural style and relates to the character of a neighborhood grouping in scale, materials, proportion or other factors." These buildings may have gone through extensive or permanent changes since the original design. Unlike buildings in the top two categories, they only get protections if they are located downtown or in the historic Professorville neighborhood.
Even the two highest categories, however, fall short when compared to state and national standards, according to consultants. Notably, they don't account for buildings that are associated with famous residents, events or cultural associations. This is an area that could be targeted by future code revisions, according to a new report from Chief Planning Official Amy French.
The city's consultants have recommended that the city consider broadening the definitions to include these types of characteristics, a suggestion that the Historic Resources Board broadly endorsed. Christina Dikas, consultant with Page & Turnbull, said the goal is to align local categories with the standards used to determine eligibility on the California and national registries, which take into account famous people and events.
While that effort to update the local definitions is still in its infancy, one member of the Historic Resources Board raised concerns about the implications of the revision. She cited as an example a home where a bandmate of Jerry Garcia lived and where the Grateful Dead front man had stayed for a spell.
"Is that significant?" Heinrich asked. "How do you determine it? To a Deadhead that would be very significant but the rest of us it's … ‘So what? It was a bandmember.'"
Dikas said that the properties would be judged based on whether they offer "the best representation of the reason why they're significant. They have to be directly linked to an important individual or event.
"It's not just that George Washington slept here," Dikas said.
The question over what counts as historical is already casting a large shadow over one of Palo Alto's most significant development proposals: The Sobrato Organization's plan to demolish a portion of the cannery building that until 2019 housed Fry's Electronics and to construct 74 townhomes at the site. The plan, which was outlined in a development agreement that Sobrato negotiated with the city last year, also calls for Sobrato to contribute 3.25 acres of land to the city for creation of a park and a future affordable housing complex.
While the former cannery is not on the local inventory, Page & Turnbull concluded in a 2019 analysis that the building at 340 Portage Ave. is eligible for the state register because it is a "rare surviving example of Palo Alto's and Santa Clara County's agricultural past." The site is thus included on the list of 148 properties in the new reconnaissance report.
"The trajectory of canning operations at the plant — which began in the early twentieth century, peaked in the 1920s, increased production to meet the demands of World War II, and then quickly declined as residential development and new industries began to replace agriculture industries in the postwar period – corresponds closely to the broad pattern of the history of the canning industry in Santa Clara County," the report stated.
Because the cannery building has seen numerous modifications since its inception, it lacks the integrity to qualify as historically significant under the architecture criterion, the study found. The consultants also concluded that Thomas Foon Chew, who created the factory, made some of his most famous inventions (including a new technique for canning green asparagus) at other canneries. The building's eligibility for the state registry is thus based solely on the cannery's contributions to regional agriculture – a criterion that local categories of historical buildings would not consider.
The Fry's site is, however, a notable exception. The vast majority of the 148 buildings in the Page & Turnbull survey are homes. Most of them are located in north Palo Alto neighborhoods such as Crescent Park, College Terrace, University South and Downtown North – areas where many of Palo Alto's earliest buildings were constructed, according to the survey.
The council signaled its intent to protect these buildings from demolition when it directed staff last year to move ahead with an expansion of the historic inventory. The goal at the time was to shield these properties from Senate Bill 9, which allows property owners in single-family zones to split their lots and construct up to four dwellings.
The city plans to host a community meeting in fall to discuss the upgrade, Chief Planning Official Amy French told the board. City officials and consultants are also preparing to send out letters to the property owners in the coming weeks to alert them that their properties had been found to be eligible for historical listings. But the question of whether or not to actually include these properties on the local inventory -- or to nominate them for the state or national listings -- will ultimately be up to the City Council.
Board member Carolyn Willis acknowledged that some property owners may be opposed to having their properties listed as historical. That, however, should not stop the city from moving ahead with doing so, she argued.
"Because we can't just lose these. We can't go back. … We can't just say they're not historic because the current owners don't want them to be," Willis said.
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Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Aug 28, 2023 at 6:58 pm
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on Aug 28, 2023 at 6:58 pm
How special of the city to inform homeowners that this was in the works.
How special of them not to spell out specific criteria for having our homes classified as historic -- age of the building? architect? style?
How special of the city to unilaterally decide what happens to what's probably our biggest personal investment.
How special of the city with its vaunted outreach -- insert sarcasm -- to NOT inform us whether our home has been reclassified and/or to send out general information to the entire community on how we might find out if our home has been reclassified since it's obviously beyond them to notify us individually,
This is why our leaders and their multi-million dollar communications teams and their consultants get the big bucks -- and stick US with the bill.
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Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 29, 2023 at 12:21 am
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on Aug 29, 2023 at 12:21 am
Some people who have had long standing positions on our boards don’t even live in Palo Alto. Some of those big glass houses that don’t fit in were designed or approved by the very same people on these boards. It’s in their best interest to regulate our property so they get hired to redesign what would normally be teardowns. Don’t give me this bologna about we all love Palo Alto. You love the money you make off its residents. Not living in our city, not sacrificing the same income or taxes to live here, but having a say in how we’re regulated is not okay. Residency or homeownership should be a minimum requirement for being a board member.
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Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 29, 2023 at 6:19 am
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on Aug 29, 2023 at 6:19 am
Though I have yet to review the listing of the designated houses, I have no intention of preserving the two older homes (circa 1905) that my family currently owns as rental properties.
Like an older car, they require too much upkeep and the costs of modification (electricity and plumbing) to current code is exorbitant.
If the city wants to purchase the properties (at market rate) and preserve these termite infested ratholes for antiquity they are more than welcome to.
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Old Palo Alto
on Aug 29, 2023 at 8:03 am
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on Aug 29, 2023 at 8:03 am
Does the City of Palo Alto have any authority to prevent the demolition or a modern-day remodeling of an older dwelling that is on this list?
If so, expect some lawsuits as some property owners are not going to be held hostage by a committee of self-annointed antiquity experts.
In regards to the former Grateful Dead crash-pad in Palo Alto...on Bush Street in Mountain View, there is a modest home where Jim Morrison of the Doors briefly resided as a child when his father was stationed at Moffett Field. With the possible exception of the Mountain View Historical Society, nobody cares and today it is just another rental property.
Picture a group of Palo Alto do-gooders 125 years ago trying to save a delapidated Ohlone tule hut simply for the sake of historical reference. That's how silly this whole thing is.
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Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Aug 29, 2023 at 9:56 am
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on Aug 29, 2023 at 9:56 am
A friend who also lives in a "historic" house sent me this link to the map of the homes on the historic list
Web Link
For once I'm thrilled with the incompetence of those involved since they missed so many wonderful old homes and even entire streets /neighborhoods filled with vintage homes.
As always, kudos to our crackerjack communication$ team who couldn't be bothered to reach out and notify us via statement stuffers, newsletters etc re something that could drastically effect our properties and neighborhoods.
Obviously weekly recipes and notices about the Glass Pumpkin Festival are much more critical.
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Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 29, 2023 at 10:03 am
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on Aug 29, 2023 at 10:03 am
Wondering whether the building housing Philz, AJs, Bills and Liquor store is designated historic. It certainly had a certain charm and those vines were perfect on a hot day. It would be nice if renovating the building could begin soon. As it is, it is just an eyesore, home for vermin and blight on what is a nice neighborhood.
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Crescent Park
on Aug 29, 2023 at 10:18 am
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on Aug 29, 2023 at 10:18 am
I reached out to the Historic Resources Board asking for the legal basis for these designations. Seeing as being designated as simply potentially historic carries with it additional obligations and limitations, I think homeowners have a right to know. I never received a response. Can someone enlighten me?
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Midtown
on Aug 29, 2023 at 11:35 am
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on Aug 29, 2023 at 11:35 am
"Wondering whether the building housing Philz, AJs, Bills and Liquor store is designated historic."
^ Seriously? It's just another mundane strip mall.
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Barron Park
on Aug 29, 2023 at 11:52 am
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on Aug 29, 2023 at 11:52 am
Some of these Historical Preservation designations, particularly the current dialogue about "saving" the former cannery where Fry's used to be, seems rooted in NIMBY-ism (for new housing) as opposed to a genuine interest in Historical Preservation. Happy to be wrong about this. What do others think?
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Old Palo Alto
on Aug 29, 2023 at 1:07 pm
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on Aug 29, 2023 at 1:07 pm
Early this year at the community meeting of historic home owners, City Staff noted that even category 1 and 2 homes on the Palo Alto historic register have been (and can be) approved for demolition. These are special cases, yet property owners do have this option?
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Adobe-Meadow
on Aug 29, 2023 at 2:08 pm
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on Aug 29, 2023 at 2:08 pm
Oh how I wish they would protect our wonderful Fish Market Bldg as well as Town and Country Village and Dinah’s . Please?
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Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Aug 29, 2023 at 2:33 pm
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on Aug 29, 2023 at 2:33 pm
I thought we eliminated all departments and those related to arbitrary historic designations years ago. It seems they have continued to be active in the background using up precious city budget funds. Historic Resources Board, Page & Turnbull consulting, Chief Planning Official, etc are examples of excess especially the consulting company.
As I ride my bike around Palo Alto, I see only one historic location - the HP Garage on Addison Ave. There is nothing else of historic importance for the city to involve itself in obstructing a home/ building owner from remodeling in the way they wish.
If the city continues down this path, they should notify the entire group of 150 so they can organize a class action lawsuit against the city by first reviewing which law firms have the most success in litigating against the city.
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Old Palo Alto
on Aug 29, 2023 at 10:04 pm
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on Aug 29, 2023 at 10:04 pm
We all know that the purpose of this is to solve a problem that does not exist. Some members of City Council were certain that the passage of Prop 9 would destroy our city. Their paranoia was misplaced because Prop 9 cannot possibly destroy a city. All it does is give the *property owner*, not the state, and not the city, the right to subdivide their homes and/or lots. The City's own consultant estimated that a very small number of homeowners in Palo Alto even would qualify for Prop 9 subdivision given its laundry list of qualifying factors. The consultant also predicted that even among homeowners that did qualify, few would choose to do so because they are living in their homes. The consultant was correct.
Even though Prop 9 has been barely used in Palo Alto (if at all?), City Council continues on its course to take rights away from homeowners to renovate their homes (as opposed to Prop 9. which gave homeowners more rights and took none away, thereby increasing property values for all eligible homes). Council both is underinclusive and overinclusive with its mandatory re-status-ing. It is punishing the young family/immigrant family/starting-out-family that only can afford a starter/tiny home, in hopes of expanding later, while at the same time allowing billionaire commercial real estate developers completely off the hook.
All this, without addressing any actual problem. Meanwhile, we do have problems that need addressing, like the greedy billionaire that wants to destroy the most important Asian-American designed local building, which BTW is zoned RESIDENTIAL not commercial. And while I completely *despise* it when people purchase one of our few remaining Eichlers or Victorians, just to tear them down and build MacMansions, I think we need to address that problem without prohibiting young families from building onto their 600 square foot starter homes.
City Council could use a good dose of empathy, coupled with a strong drink of common sense.
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Old Palo Alto
on Aug 29, 2023 at 10:31 pm
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on Aug 29, 2023 at 10:31 pm
Also, looking at the map of designated homes: Web Link
Shouldn't Castilleja be on the list? They have called their campus historic for decades. Now the City is forcing neighbors to tolerate Castilleja's historic campus to be demolished and rebuilt with a huge underground commercial garage. If there is any building worthy of historical designation -- and all the prohibitions on destruction and restrictions on renovation that go with it -- it would be Castilleja School. Yet: no enforcement.
Additionally, Larry Page proudly owns approximately a dozen homes about a block from where I live in Old Palo Alto, approx across the street from the (far more humble) Jobs home. It is clearly historically designated, e.g. Web Link (Hacienda de Lemos) yet in the past decade alone since I lived down the street, Page has built multiple bunkers the size of large office buildings under a large number of the historic homes, has designated some of them as being owned by a charity (to avoid taxation?) and even was using at least one of them for commercial office space for Google employees, who are believed to have started the biggest fire in years just a year or two ago. Although historic designation prohibits a wide number of changes to the appearance of homes, Page has built multi-story eye-sore cell or satellite tower, has made numerous external, undergound and internal (I've told) renovations, and even attempts to illegally block the public from viewing the historic home by placing a false sign claiming that Waverly Oaks is a"private road," when there are no private roads in Palo Alto, and even if there were, Waverley Oaks, which is served by PA utilities and City Services, is NOT one. Yet: no enforcement.
Plus, of course, Fry's. Which is, as we know, being changed to commercial (for free!) and given to Sobrato, who plans to destroy it. Not only is there no enforcement, but the City of Palo Alto is activity complicit with Sobrato's plans to trash the community-built blueprint that exists for South Ventura and replace it with whatever-the-billionaire-wants.
Given that there has been zero historic designation enforcement where it really counts, does the City intend to fine residents? Sadly, probably.
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Midtown
on Aug 30, 2023 at 9:03 am
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on Aug 30, 2023 at 9:03 am
In another 50-75 years, will entire tracts of Eichlers become historically preserved homes?
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Old Palo Alto
on Aug 30, 2023 at 9:41 am
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on Aug 30, 2023 at 9:41 am
The PAST website has a great deal of information about homes and other buildings in Palo Alto. I encourage folks to take a look. Web Link These old homes have so much charm, and I despair when I see them bulldozed for no reason other than new owners "can." My house is nearly 100 years old and I wish it were protected.
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Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Aug 30, 2023 at 10:13 am
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on Aug 30, 2023 at 10:13 am
"My house is nearly 100 years old and I wish it were protected."
@Miriam Palm, can't you apply? 100 years old seems pretty historic to me and, again, I wonder how they came up with their list when there are so many obvious omissions like yours.
I love old houses and interesting architecture but I DO resent the city deciding who goes on the list without the owners' consent and/or awareness. How can that be legal, esp. when the city's selections are so strange.
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Professorville
on Aug 30, 2023 at 2:51 pm
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on Aug 30, 2023 at 2:51 pm
There are far more than 150 homes on the historical list; those are ones that are recently up for review.
The Palo Alto Stanford Heritage Assn. has a lot of information.
Web Link
As someone who owns a historical home, I am a strong advocate in preserving these homes for the value, culture and history of the neighborhood (Professorville). I wish that people who don't value historic homes wouldn't buy them. There are plenty of neighborhoods where new construction wouldn't look so out of place.
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College Terrace
on Aug 30, 2023 at 4:42 pm
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on Aug 30, 2023 at 4:42 pm
Riley Chung, if your two older, rental properties are, "termite-infested rat holes", then maybe you should fix them up! Why let your tenants live in a home you do not take care of? That's sad.
I own a historic, 1893 Queen Anne Victorian and have upgraded all the wiring, termite and rodent issues, added modern bathrooms, and a beautiful new kitchen.
We also have beautiful garden spaces that many people crave!
We really have a beautiful home with its 11-foot ceilings, beautiful crown moldings, and historic touches. Unfortunately, you bought your older homes with the intention of tearing them down instead of fixing them up in order to retain their beauty and Palo Alto history. There are many buyers who appreciate the beauty of restored "older" homes. My home, like many older homes, was built with old-growth redwood which is termite-proof! My 1893 home went through many earthquakes with very little damage. That is because the framing is superior to any flimsy multi-million home you see on the market today!
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Community Center
on Aug 31, 2023 at 8:13 am
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on Aug 31, 2023 at 8:13 am
Compared to some of the older Eastern and Midwestern homes, the Palo Alto houses designated for historical recognition pale in comparison and the majority of them are not worth saving if one wishes to build a contemporary dwelling on the property.
Outside of their sturdy internal redwood framework, many of these older Palo Alto homes lack the Mahogany, Walnut, Cherrywood interiors that define a classic 19th century design.
Wallpaper is oftentimes a dead giveaway as it was frequently used as a coverup for cheaper wooden wall materials. About all one can expect from many of these older Palo Alto homes is some oak flooring and thresholds.
On the other hand and despite their relative inferiorities compared to other more classic American homes, the older Palo Alto homes are far better constructed than the ubiquitous Eichlers.
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Downtown North
on Aug 31, 2023 at 11:24 am
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on Aug 31, 2023 at 11:24 am
An older Queen Anne dwelling is no big deal...no different than the sentimentality some people attach to old clunker cars.
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Crescent Park
on Sep 1, 2023 at 4:44 pm
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on Sep 1, 2023 at 4:44 pm
The City should not have the right to force any property owner's building to become ineligible for teardown or major renovation without the consent of the property owner. For many of us, our home is by far our most valuable asset and it is wrong for the City to arbitrarily impinge the value of our assets. Some of the proposed designations, such as Fry's, are simply idiotic. We live at the epicenter of global technology progress, reordering the lives of billions globallly and we have a small clique that wants to preserve creaky old buildings at the expense of their owner and taxpayers. If you want to register your home as historic and create restrictions on future owners, that should be your decision and yours only.
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Crescent Park
on Sep 1, 2023 at 8:55 pm
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on Sep 1, 2023 at 8:55 pm
The main issue if a home is on the historic inventory is that it’s subject to CEQA, which is potentially a quagmire if you want to substantially alter the exterior.