About two months ago, I stopped for coffee at a Starbucks in Saratoga. It was a sunny afternoon, and I took the big warm cup outside with my magazine to enjoy some time outdoors. I noticed that a foursome who'd arrived on their bikes were now heading to the table behind me. Older folks, I thought, glancing at them. I didn't pay any more attention as they settled into their chairs.
But then, I overheard one of the men say, "So tell us about this heat pump thing." I perked up my ears! The other man started in, explaining their water heater was old, that they'd researched the idea of electric water heaters, and decided that a heat pump model would be the most efficient. "And we got a big rebate from Silicon Valley Clean Energy, so that reduced the cost considerably..."
By now, I was more interested in them than in my magazine. However, I didn't want to intrude, so I just kept eaves-dropping.
"Don't forget about the BayREN rebate, dear," the wife interjected.
"Yes," he said, "and because of the Federal Inflation Reduction Act — the thing that Biden got passed — we'll be getting 30% of the cost back as a tax credit from the IRS this year. Basically, it's costing us the same as if we'd bought a new gas water heater. So we avoided a broken water heater mess — and we're reducing our emissions, too."
"But what happens if they shut off the electricity?" the other woman asked.
"Yes," the speaker said. "But it's usually not for long. We got a slightly larger tank, so it holds enough hot water for a couple days. We set the temperature a little hotter and bought a model with a mixing valve, which adds cold water as it flows out, so you don't burn your hands. It's a manageable problem."
"So now," the wife chimed in again, "with the induction cooktop, we're almost an all electric house!"
The other woman asked how she liked it. The first replied, "It's so easy to clean — just wipe it with a cloth! And it's so much faster than an old-fashioned electric coil stove. With induction, it's easy to control the temp, and as soon as you turn it off, you can touch the glass top without getting burned."
Then the second man said, "That's all nice, but how can you cook if they shut off the electricity?"
"Well," said the first man, "It hasn't been a problem so far — but I've heard that the newest induction stoves also include a battery. They recharge automatically, and hold enough juice so you can cook even if the power goes down."
"Smart idea," said the other man.
"But you're still using gas to heat the house, aren't you?" the second woman inquired.
Enjoying the warm sun on my back, I wondered how they'd answer. The wife responded, "Yes, because it IS expensive to change a furnace. But I've been reading more about the hazards of gas. There's a UCLA study that says kids who grow up in a home with gas are 40% more likely to develop asthma. Our grandkids visit here a lot, and I don't want them to breathe bad indoor air, especially in the winter."
"Our heater's as old as our house," her husband added, "but we do have a duct system, so it should be easy to switch from gas to an electric furnace. So, we're planning now to switch it next year, to get another tax credit. "
He paused and then asked, "How old is your house?"
"It's over 70 years old," the second man said, "with just a floor furnace. We don't have any ducts."
"Yeah, yours will be more expensive," the first man nodded, adding that he'd heard about a cheaper system called "mini-splits" that are smaller units, without ducts and placed onto the exterior wall of rooms you want to heat.
"That would work," said the second woman, adding: "I worry about gas. Remember that big gas explosion in San Bruno about 10 years ago? It blew up a whole block -- some 30 houses -- and eight people died! And what if we have an earthquake? Gas catches fire and that's usually the biggest damage when there's a quake."
By now, my coffee was drunk, the sunshine had slipped behind a post, and it was time for me to head out. I picked up my magazine and left, glancing at the foursome with a polite smile.
"Amazing," I thought to myself getting back into my car, "Here I am in another town, listening to people I don't know ... and they're talking about the same stuff that we're chewing over in Palo Alto."
Of course, Saratoga shares many demographics with Palo Alto: affluent, older, well-educated techies. But these strangers are learning from each other. The resources we need for taking action — the appliances, the rebates, the tax credits — are now readily available throughout our region. And people are starting to make the changes.
I pushed the button to start my EV, and thought: "The awareness is growing that our Earth is in trouble — and we're starting to do something about it. Now, if only we can do it in time?"
Debbie Mytels, a resident of Midtown, is delighted with her new heat pump water heater installed by CPAU in October. She’s a retired associate director at Acterra and currently volunteers on the steering committee of the 350SV Palo Alto Climate Team. You can reach her at debbie.mytels@gmail.com.
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Registered user
another community
on Jan 15, 2024 at 10:13 am
Registered user
on Jan 15, 2024 at 10:13 am
I have just read in the daily post that trying to make people change from gas to electric stoves may be illegal and the whole thing may come to nothing.
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Community Center
on Jan 15, 2024 at 10:52 am
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on Jan 15, 2024 at 10:52 am
This story is full of bad information. First, if ANY of the combustion products from a gas hot water heater or furnace get into the home, the vent is damaged or not properly installed and should be fixed immediately. Put another way, if your gas water heater or furnace affects your indoor air quality, it should be repaired.
Second, the UCLA study compared unvented gas cook stoves with electric stoves. It has nothing to do with gas home heating. 100 years ago everyone knew that gas cook stoves needed to be vented outside. Sometime around 50 years ago, the energy conservation movement decided that houses needed to be air tight, and the result was a lot more asthma, especially in children. There is nothing wrong with a gas cooktop as long as it is paired with an exhaust hood that is actually vented outside. My grandmother knew this 100 years ago; why do we not understand this now?
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Menlo Park
on Jan 15, 2024 at 11:12 am
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on Jan 15, 2024 at 11:12 am
Indoor air quality is certainly a problem with gas stoves. Even if you use the exhaust fan when cooking (as you certainly should) since they leak 24/7. See Stanford study: Web Link
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Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Jan 15, 2024 at 12:13 pm
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on Jan 15, 2024 at 12:13 pm
Pertaining to the narrative to transition to electric, PGE was granted rate hikes and we should expect to see this each year. Consumers will bear the brunt of higher pricing to address a very small part of what would address an impact to the environment.
CALIFORNIA, USA — Starting Jan. 1 PG&E power & gas bills will go up 12% or 13%. The California Public Utilities Commission, the agency that sets rates for power companies, approved a more than a billion-dollar rate hike for PG&E Thursday afternoon.
In Chevron’s latest SEC filings, they are writing down $ billions of energy assets in California as the severe unnecessary regulations on the energy sector make further investing in California as not viable. The state and federal narrative policies will continue to result in higher pricing for no environmental gain.
If anyone is interested in an electric car, Hertz is dumping 20,000 electric cars as the demand did not substantiate the further investment.
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Midtown
on Jan 15, 2024 at 6:35 pm
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on Jan 15, 2024 at 6:35 pm
Excellent article, Debbie. I especially appreciated the information about the rebates available to us to soften the expense of doing what's right.
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Crescent Park
on Jan 16, 2024 at 12:49 pm
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on Jan 16, 2024 at 12:49 pm
@eenee - it's more complicated. We may need to change over our gas furnaces and gas water heaters due to a recent BAAQMD ruling on air quality. The gas stoves thing is a different issue, and you are referring to the Berkeley lawsuit that's based on a different area of the law.
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Green Acres
on Jan 16, 2024 at 6:54 pm
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on Jan 16, 2024 at 6:54 pm
@neighbor of PA
Fortunately, the Stanford study in your link only found indoor air quality issues for "...people who don’t use their range hoods or who have poor ventilation...", so no worries if you're using the range hood. The grandkids will be fine :)
Methane on its own is not a health problem, but if you do smell the added odorant, something is wrong - call the utility's emergency number to get it fixed and stay safe.
For those uncertain about the performance of induction cooktops, decent-quality standalone single induction hotplates are available for less than $100 to see for yourself. The also enable induction cooking in houses without the 50A 220V circuit needed for a full induction range.