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UC admission rates fo CA residents drastically declined

Original post made by UC Scam, another community, on May 13, 2015

Another well discussed factor in student stress is college admission rates, and especially for CA residents applying to UCs.

Between 2007 and 2014, the number of applications to UC campuses increased dramatically. Yet, admission rates for California residents fell significantly, from 87 percent in 2007 to just 62 percent in 2014. Rates were even lower at the UC’s flagship campuses in Berkeley and Los Angeles, dropping from 25% to 16%. Especially troubling is the fact non-resident admissions rates are higher than for CA students at UCLA and some other UCs.

Even though the UC is admitting 13 percent of California high school graduates, complying with the master plan, actual enrollment is roughly 7.5 percent, down from about 9 percent before the recession. UCs are referring admission primarily to UC Merced, where only 2% of referred students enroll.

As California-resident enrollment rates drop, enrollment of out-of-state and international students has skyrocketed, as the UCs college hundred's of millions in out-of-state-tuition. Nonresident enrollment at UC campuses grew by 283 percent between 2007 and 2014.

Something needs to be done to increase admission rates for CA students.

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Posted by Mom
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 14, 2015 at 1:01 am

Why can't they just charge Californians more for tuition? Californians would perhaps rather pay more than have to go to college out-of-state. My son is in college out-of-state, and let me tell you, there's no place like California. He's homesick, but our state colleges won't allow him to transfer until he completes two years of credits.

In 2013, UT Austin accepted only 10% out-of-state students - that's how it's done!


Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 14, 2015 at 7:44 am

The Californian population is growing, but the number of spaces at Californian Colleges for Californian residents is growing smaller.

Something very wrong here.

And then, they wonder why so many Californian high tech businesses are choosing to employ H1 visa holders. The reason is because the College grads are all foreigners.

Still something wrong here.


Posted by musical
a resident of Palo Verde
on May 14, 2015 at 9:07 am

>> applications increased yet admission rates fell

When admission rates are given as a percentage, the number of applications is the denominator.

We could increase the published admission rate if we just did not count the applicants who had no hope of being admitted.

Or we could make any college appear extremely selective by encouraging mass applications from the general populace.

A more-informative statistic would be, for example, the admission rate among unweighted 3.9-GPA or 2100-SAT applicants.

Here's some recent (2014) data from UC Berkeley admissions:

Average applicant's GPA -- CA resident 3.61, international 3.68
Average admitted student, 3.89 GPA for either

Average applicant's SAT -- CA resident 1837, international 1992
Average admitted student, 2124 for either

CA resident Admits/Apps 8,307/43,883... 18.9%
International Admits/Apps 1,356/13,260... 10.2%


Posted by resident 1
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 14, 2015 at 9:42 am

Look at the Regents for the UC system: Richard Blum - husband of Dianne Feinstein, Gavin Newsome - Lt. Gov.; Jerry Brown - Gov. and a cast of others who are suppose to be looking out for CALIFORNIA and are busy paying high salaries to Napolitano, etc.
Make sure when we vote in 2016 that we reverse this process. So much for the people. We are paying the taxes for the schools, along with the out-of state students.

I am an alumnus of the CSU system - they try and bring in the California students. Maybe not the same reputation but they get the job done and they have successful students.


Posted by Prof
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 14, 2015 at 9:49 am

Gpa expectations have risen while spots available have fallen.

At the core are 2 issues:
1)UC budget was cut by $1 Billion during the recession and never recovered. Gov Brown wants them to cut more.

Until voters and lobbyists convince the govt that education should be primarily for CA students, and fund the schools appropriately, the UCs will still have to admit more non-residents.

2) the mission and metrics by which the UCs, Cal state and CCs are measured has to be revisited to support educating CA residents first.


Posted by common sense
a resident of Midtown
on May 14, 2015 at 10:41 am

One of the problems is the uncontrolled growth of administration versus actual faculty at the University of California:

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Senior administrative positions grew by 252% versus 51% for employees. Management is now 9,457 Full time equivalent employees, while faculty is 8,657 full time equivalents.


Posted by CrescentParkAnon.
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 14, 2015 at 12:44 pm

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