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Palo Alto drops plan for November tax measure
Original post made on Jun 28, 2016
Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 1:05 AM
Comments
a resident of Community Center
on Jun 28, 2016 at 6:39 am
Just how is this new tax going to solve our transportation problems? It seems the CC wants to raise some tax revenue, but this article doesn't give a hint about how they plan to spend the money.
a resident of University South
on Jun 28, 2016 at 7:05 am
I think they would have an easier time if they had a concrete plan for the money. This seems like there was a desire to tax jobs away, and they decided that they could spend the money on transportation.
If the Council had identified specific projects and tried to talk to people ahead of time, it would have gone better. Now they have time to do it.
a resident of Community Center
on Jun 28, 2016 at 8:01 am
In light of concerns that it may be premature to levy a tax on businesses for transportation solutions, could the Council benefit from greater focus on finalizing the Transportation Element of an updated Comprehensive Plan? Ad hoc and reactive debates may lead to hastily designed proposals. Not typically a formula for success or public trust in the City government. If "ready, aim, fire" is a better approach, then first complete the long-term plan and then utilize the context for evaluating priorities and specific projects. Clarify the vision of the community, engage with the public on what this implies, and execute on the plan. It often seems that, for whatever reason, we have stumbled on the planning effort, resulting in confusion and some level of mistrust. And, by the way, what a strange time this is for politics at all levels, everywhere.
a resident of College Terrace
on Jun 28, 2016 at 9:05 am
Be realistic, $50 per employee is not nearly enough to pay for the roads and other infrastructure improvements that are needed to reduce our traffic congestion. Newspapers are reporting that San Francisco is proposing a 1.5% payroll tax on tech companies to help pay for their impact on the community. This is thousands of dollars per employee, not just $50. Palo Alto needs to put together a realistic plan that will have a meaningful impact on the city's problems. $50 is a joke that will barely pay for the paperwork of the tax.
a resident of Mountain View
on Jun 28, 2016 at 9:32 am
Judy Kleinberg - the CEO of the Palo Alto Chamber of Commerce - was a Palo Alto city councilmember. It pays.
a resident of Atherton
on Jun 28, 2016 at 9:52 am
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.
"Palo Alto needs to put together a realistic plan that will have a meaningful impact on the city's problems"
Such a plan needs to deal not only with how to raise the necessary revenues but,much more important, what exactly will be done with the funds. Just dumping these funds into the general fund would be a huge mistake.
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Jun 28, 2016 at 10:30 am
Be Positive is a registered user.
Since the City seems fine with potentially taking property by eminent domain to take Buena Vista from the Jisser family, why don't we take Stanford's property along El Camino and turn it into Parking and Housing?
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 28, 2016 at 11:37 am
CGPA is a registered user.
If the measures we passed REALLY went to the subjects we passed them for, the schools would be drowning in money. Instead, the lottery money was just used to reduce money from the general fund that went to schools. The schools didn't get one dime more, and the prison guards union soaked up all that extra cash.
The employers are paying $50 per month for their employees to park on the streets they already paid for. If we need to do more, we should enact a tax that subsidizes bike maintenance and caltrain passes for people who work in the downtown and Cal ave districts. I'd rather see a tax that has actual effects than one that grabs money and has virtually no effects at all, other than to add to the general slush fund.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 28, 2016 at 1:22 pm
The tax was not a well thought through concept as it was described and so I am pleased that this idea has been scrapped.
However, I hope that this isn't the council saying well we tried, you didn't like it so there's nothing we can do.
There are many approaches that have never been discussed. Parking and traffic are two different subjects. They can't be treated as one and throwing money at them as one is crazy.
We need a well thought through change in parking in our business districts. It is confusing, messy and doesn't work. Redwood City seems to have a good system in place with meters and nobody seems to object. Meters have never been discussed in Palo Alto recently. We have two hour free parking, but we don't have 30 minute parking outside retail. For someone going to pick up a prescription or drop something off at a business (something I need to do) we have to park a block away if we are lucky for a 10 minute errand. We also have cars circulating round and round looking for street parking which adds to the traffic. I don't hear anything about 30 minutes parking being discussed.
Traffic patterns do change when there is no school. I have said on many occasions that if we could get rid of school traffic by improving shuttles to our schools we would be getting rid of a lot of school commute traffic. We don't need to have free shuttles, we just need an adequate and efficient service at an affordable fare. This is something that I have never heard discussed. We also have a very complicated system for people who want to park all day on an occasional basis. This may be someone who normally gets to work by other means and sometimes needs to bring a car, someone who normally carpools, or someone who has car problems and needs to borrow or use a loaner car. Then there are other people who may need to park for longer than a couple of hours because they are visitors to town, either business visitors or those just visiting for other reasons. The complications of looking for somewhere to park and knowing how to pay for all day parking is not easy if you are a visitor to town. We don't have signs as to where to park all day and we don't have signs that show if there are spaces in garages. These factors make it very difficult for those who are visiting town.
So to get back to the need for lots of money. How much money will it cost to make some sensible changes that will help traffic and parking? How is this money going to be raised? Many of these ideas will cost some money in the implementation but then should not be expensive to maintain.
Where and when are we going to look at these issues (parking and traffic) with some common sense and in a timely manner.
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 28, 2016 at 2:15 pm
Once money hits the general fund it is gone. It will be used to pay off pensions. It's not too hard to figure out how to fix trafic; fix the grade crossings, build some more parking garages with meters, charge a congestion tax for non-residents.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jun 28, 2016 at 6:17 pm
Guess you need a plan before asking for a tax to pay for it......
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Jun 28, 2016 at 6:35 pm
maggie is a registered user.
Sounds like not too many people actually listened to the council discussion. The article does not address all the angles that were discussed. Council did not pursue putting this on the ballot this fall for the very reasons some of you suggest. My understanding was council has directed staff to come back with a comprehensive list of possible traffic mitigation measures to be analyzed and prioritized. Then figure out a budget. Finally decide what is the best way to raise the funds. I believe it was Mayor Burt who said we should expect Palo Alto another million square feet of development as the temporary 50,000 sq annual development cap only applies to a small area around University Avenue, and possibly a small area around California Avenue. Even if the occupants don't drive and take alternative forms of transport, this will still be a huge increase in daily traffic commuting in and out of Palo Alto.
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Jun 28, 2016 at 6:39 pm
maggie is a registered user.
PS Parking and other measures relating to reducing single occupancy cars will all be part of the mix that will be included.
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Jun 28, 2016 at 6:41 pm
maggie is a registered user.
As to parking meters, that was tried, but removed after shoppers simply drove elsewhere to do their shopping.
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 28, 2016 at 6:45 pm
"No matter what scenario the city proposed, he said, members of the business community opposed the changes. The notion that they would back a tax even after extensive outreach and further refining is "very wishful," Burt said.
Does that surprise you... "Burt"? The "business community" are people who choose to compete in a free market. They face reality, work hard and make ends meet. Unlike some others who... (I'll stop there before my post gets censored)
ANY kind of tax has a negative impact on people and the economy.
Taxes are a necessary evil at best.
They should be introduced judiciously, not thrown around as if taking people's money by force (taxation) is a perfectly legitimate way of dealing with things.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jun 28, 2016 at 6:46 pm
Just wondering...you have a city manager who is paid over $300,000 in salary+benefits, has a house paid for by Palo Alto residents including his property taxes, has assembled a management staff each earning six figure salaries which combined reaches into the multi-millions, has no accountability....So let's hear his ideas on how to fix Palo Alto's dilemmas. Why do we need more taxes when we have the highest paid city staff in the Bay Area to find solutions?