Like any good business the homeless go where the money is. With the new homeless support center nearby it's a win-win situation.

I shop in Los Altos, Mountain View and Menlo Park and Sunnyvale. Nowhere is the homeless/begging problem as bad as in Palo Alto. Other cities don't tolerate begging and loitering....it is bad for business.

I also shop and get gas in Mountain View and love the new Whole Foods on the Mountain View/Los Altos border! BTW the Trader Joe's in Mountain View does not have in-your-face solicitors like you find at the Menlo Park TJ's.

Didn't we already do this thread about a month or so ago?

Yes, we all have talked this subject to death but the problem still exists. How can we clean up Palo Alto....especially University Avenue!

It's the Opportunity Center on Encina Avenue that's drawing them. Don't take my word. Ask them. They're coming from all over the state. They'll tell you -- the word's out.

Same thing happened about 10 years ago when All Saints Church began handing out free food -- in a short time we went from a handful of homeless to hundreds, lining up for meals.

The new Homer tunnel is helping them. It shortens the distance between the new shelter and the good panhandling areas. I wouldn't be surprised to see burglaries increase in the south of Forest neighborhood too.

Leave it to do-gooders to screw up a nice town!

Palo Alto is a very liberal City that has always been generous to the homeless. Approving the building of the Opportunity Center on Encina Street and building the Homer Tunnel so they can get Downtown is typical of Palo Alto City Council's approach to the homeless.

However, it is now having a detrimental affect as local residents abandon Downtown retail outlets and restaurants in favor of the big box stores in Mountain View and the clean ambiance of Main Street, Los Altos. The homeless have taken over Lytton Plaza and University Avenue, I don't go there anymore.

When I retire, I am going to become a homeless person during the day and hang out in Palo Alto. What a great partime/retirement job!

I think that the homeless population has grown because we are a community that is burdened by the guilt of success. We provide shelter, food as was stated above. We have a comfortable and low crime environment in which they can live. This is a realtively easy place to be homeless. The faces we see on the street are the same year after year. Is our generosity providing sufficent incentive to break this cycle?

We do seem to have more than our share and you're right, some of the same faces hang out everyday making University Avenue trashy. When we first moved here, we foolishly gave cash to some of them. We no longer do. The homeless need to be cared for and encouraged to work toward returning to a place in society. Making panhandling profitable is not the way to do it. Smile, say, "Good day," and keep moving.

A bit more police presence might keep them better behaved too.