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Why isn't the City Council talking about water shortfalls?

Original post made by Resident, Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Apr 21, 2009

West Is Told to Expect Water Shortfalls Web Link


Is the City Council continuing to add housing to Palo Alto instead of planning for water shortages due to the lack of oversight and regulation of the City Council? Do we need to elect council members by district? To make progress in dealing with water shortages requires some understanding of the origins of the current water mess in California. The need is not only for a clear picture of what happened but for an assessment of the motives and actions of the main players, the causes and consequences of what they did, and the ideas and institutions that encouraged, inhibited and shaped our current water problems.

When a bill was proposed to require developers to identify the source of water to be used to supply a proposed development, it was defeated. The people who should have stopped unregulated development were waist-deep in conflicts of interest. You know the source of water for Palo Alto developments; it is the residents using less water. It soon may be the residents paying for new infrastructure to store water and create a brine drain (rather than a sewage system).

The lack of oversight and regulation of development encourages risk-taking and short-term opportunism. Palo Alto and the Bay Area is moving toward dirtier air (due to more traffic and not enough regulation of big polluters), unsafe roads, multiple-story/crowded schools, a less diverse population and no local farms.

If we elected city council candidates by district, it is easier to recall them if they promise one thing and do another.




Comments (9)

Posted by Water rate increase
a resident of Midtown
on Apr 21, 2009 at 2:02 pm

"Why isn't the City Council talking about water?" They just did it's all over the papers this morning. Our water rates will be increased by 8.9% even if we use less water!!! New rates will take effect July 1st.


Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 21, 2009 at 3:34 pm

The water pot is only so big. The more houses we build, the smaller the slice of pie (if you can call water a slice of pie) we will all get.

Soon it will be time for the annual water flush. This is the time the utilities allow gallons of water to flood the streets and into the storm drains and the Bay. When will a system be developed to catch this flushed water to use for irrigating our parks or other gray use?


Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Apr 21, 2009 at 4:43 pm

Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.

It's all them republicans and their selfish insistence on bathing while children in Africa are thirsty. Hell, there's always patchouli oil, ain't they?


Posted by Douglas Moran
a resident of Barron Park
on Apr 21, 2009 at 4:49 pm

Douglas Moran is a registered user.

For available water constraints on development, the City uses the numbers from its contract with the Hetch Hetchy system (SF), meaning the amount available in times of plenty. State law prohibits the City from using water as a factor in evaluating individual projects--limits are part of the Comprehensive (General) Plan. This info from City Staff at a 2005 forum on development and housing sponsored by Palo Alto Neighborhoods (PAN) at the start of the City Council campaign.

The game the City has played is to cherry-pick the portions of the Comprehensive Plan it applies to development (favoring the developers), so even if the Comprehensive Plan were revised to take into account realistic projections of water availability, it wouldn't make any difference (The Comp Plan is currently being updated).


Posted by PointOfView
a resident of Midtown
on Apr 21, 2009 at 9:36 pm

"State law prohibits the City from using water as a factor in evaluating individual projects--limits are part of the Comprehensive (General) Plan."

Maybe, but Carmel, CA effectively limits new projects by limiting the number of plumbing fixtures; I believe there are *no* new plumbing fixtures allowed. That appears to be legal. Perhaps we should push a City initiative to limit new plumbing fixtures to ensure that the council does not continue to arbitrarily accommodate developers.


Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Apr 22, 2009 at 3:57 am

Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.

Raise the drawbridge? Why not just, as our ancestors did, develop more water collection and storage facilities? In the mean time, let developers buy back fixture units by subsidizing toilet replacement programs.


Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Apr 22, 2009 at 10:31 am

If you admit a water shortfall, then you must limit growth, which takes water. BVut we crave the money and prestige of growth, so we make believe we got plenty of water.


Posted by PointOfView
a resident of Midtown
on Apr 22, 2009 at 11:33 am

"Raise the drawbridge?"

No, but we can limit fixtures/acre until we digest the recent and current population growth.

It's not only water; it's schools, transportation, parks, libraries, dog runs, adjustment to increased crime, pet projects, administrative efficiency and scale, etc.

BTW, Carmel raised the bridge to the benefit of people who live there. And anyone is allowed to live there.

I think this way: there are more people who want to live in Silicon Valley than it can support. We can let diminished desirability as a result of overpopulation naturally limit growth, or remain desirable and let some kind of limit up the ante to get here.

I know you think we can get more desirable with more people, but how do we go that way?


Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 24, 2009 at 11:04 am

drawbridge - a bridge hinged at one end and free at the other, which may be drawn up and let down so as to prevent or permit passage over it. Oxford English Dictionary

I am in favor of preventing any more dense development and instead permitting small, incremental development approved in advance by residents of Palo Alto.


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