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Parking permits ahead for College Terrace?
Original post made on Jul 6, 2009
Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, July 6, 2009, 8:03 AM
Comments (22)
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 6, 2009 at 8:27 am
Stanford should look after its own parking problems. It should have better parking for its staff and also its graduate students - undergrads should not need parking. Stanford trying to get less people driving on campus in the first place is what is causing this problem.
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jul 6, 2009 at 8:56 am
So, the city is going ahead with this plan even though only a third of College Terrace streets want it? Sounds to me like this is another example of a small group of vocal people getting what they want from the city. But that has always been the case with College Terrace--if it is not more and more "traffic calming" measures, it is private parking spaces on public streets.
Also if now the problem is also due to Facebook, shouldn't they be footing part of the bill for this program instead of Stanford alone?
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jul 6, 2009 at 9:29 am
Palo Altans should park in their driveways. It's better for cyclists and aesthetics. Just look around at how many empty driveways there are with two Volvo's parked at the curb.
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Jul 6, 2009 at 10:10 am
This is a problem in Evergreen Park as well. The workers from the new offices on El Camino park all over the local streets, leaving no spaces for residents without drive ways. I have tried to ask the offices- a dentist, plastic surgeon etc to respect the residential streets.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 6, 2009 at 10:23 am
I find it interesting that College Terrace will get permit parking, yet both PA North and Professorville (who have been screaming for permits for decades) still don't rate the same consideration...
a resident of Ventura
on Jul 6, 2009 at 10:48 am
How about signs to prevent overnight parking in Ventura neighborhood... we have a contingent of individuals living out of their vehicles who park across from our homes, ruin the roads with waste drainage coming out of them, smell horrific and contain men of seriously questionable sanity who often stare at young women in a abnormal and intimitdating way. The police claim they can't do anything because they aren't violating any laws... well, why can't we just change the parking laws so that we do have a way of protecting our rights and safety??
a resident of Professorville
on Jul 6, 2009 at 11:40 am
Right on, Crescent Park Dad. Here in Professorville, we we can't park because the downtown businesses take up all the space, and one person in particular stores his old pickup trucks full of trash on our street for weeks at a time.
Mom from old PA, we would park in our driveways if we had them, but but most of us don't.
Palo Alto Weekly staff writer
on Jul 6, 2009 at 11:40 am
Gennady Sheyner is a registered user.
Marvin,
Only the blocks that opt into the parking program will participate. Given the survey results, this means about 1/3 of the blocks in the area will be included in the program.
Cheers,
Gennady
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 6, 2009 at 1:46 pm
as a transplant to the area from New England, I have found it odd that there aren't parking stickers for every neighborhood. Offer them to residents for free, of course, and then ticket those cars in violation to raise revenues for the city.
a resident of College Terrace
on Jul 6, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I park one car in my driveway. Evidently the exorbitant property taxes I pay for a 3000 sq foot lot in College Terrace aren't enough to ensure one parking spot on the street for my husband. Instead some Stanford employee gets a bonus for not driving to work.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 6, 2009 at 3:54 pm
If College Terrace is granted Parking Permits, every other neighborhood which has a lot of on street parking should also ask for Parking Permits. Frankly, I think this is opening a Pandora's Box. What may be granted to one neighborhood should be approved for all neighborhoods throughout the City with similar parking problems.
Of course this will cost money because perking permits must be enforced which will require hiring a Community Service Officer to police the permits. Again the tax payers of PA will have to pay for the additional hires.
a resident of Southgate
on Jul 6, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Parking is a big issue for residents in the 1500 blocks of Southgate during the school year. Paly requires permits so many students park on Castijella and Mariposa. Because the streets here are very narrow this creates a major traffic problem along with just being able to back out of ones driveway.
Also, in College Terrace will the residents be offered extra permits for guests?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 6, 2009 at 5:09 pm
The trouble with Paly parking is that a student must buy a permit for the whole school year. This means that if a student wants to drive to school just once a week, or the occasional day when a large project is due, the only option is street parking. Southgate should lobby Paly to use day permits at a reasonable charge to enable students to park on these few days that they need them.
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 6, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Students at Paly can buy a "one-day pass" for $3 up to five times during the year.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 6, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Thanks for the info, my family did not know.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 6, 2009 at 8:34 pm
So, Stanford's funding this to the tune of $100,000....and who's paying for the rest?
When DownTown North was looking at this back in 2001, it was going to have an annual operating cost estimated at $893,000. (Web Link
$100k's a nice starting point but it ain't going to cover the costs unless they get the rest of us to subsidize College Terrace (again!)
a resident of Mountain View
on Jul 6, 2009 at 10:03 pm
I understand the annoyance of residents not having parking spots. I also understand how they would be peeved at Stanford students and employees parking in their neighborhood and taking the shuttle over to campus. But why blame the university for the problem. They need to reduce the amount of cars coming onto campus and make every effort to encourage people to take alternative transportation. Just because some shirkers take advantage of both Stanford (by taking clean air cash even thought they do drive) and the local community doesn't mean the university is to blame.
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 6, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Resident,
See the Paly Auditor to obtain the one-day pass. The Auditor is open at brunch, lunch, and after school. See them in advance for the day pass, as the Auditor is closed before school (when you'd need the parking pass for that specific day).
Also, feel free to e-mail an administrator if you ever need help. E-mails are on Paly.net.
a resident of another community
on Jul 7, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Seems like this is an obvious unintended consequence of Stanford being required to limit commute trips onto campus.
a resident of University South
on Jul 8, 2009 at 8:23 am
University South will need permits especially if Professorville gets them.
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jul 8, 2009 at 8:55 am
Every neighborhood can not be turned into a private parking enclave. There will be unintended consequences for businesses and for our "Destination Palo Alto" push.
The council should think twice before they issue any more of these permits and not be swayed by complaining "neighborhood leaders" and NIMBYists. Many of these neighborhoods have ample garage and driveway parking for their residents.
Also if College Terrace insists on a re-vote for streets that opted out, then the new voting should be for all the streets again.
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 8, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Marvin, one obvious answer is to have the overflow from Stanford park on the streets of Charleston Gardens. The Marguerite can shuttle over and back to/from Stanford. That way, you can celebrate the openess of your streets.
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