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"More than three-quarters (77 percent) of respondents in the poll agreed that if Turner had been African American or Latino, he would have received a tougher sentence."

Seems like they are right. Persky is getting ready to sentence a Latino man to 3 years in prison for the same crime: Web Link

It seems Judge Persky is not impartial. That makes him unfit to serve as a judge. Period.

There was recently an interview about a young black man who had been sentenced at age 16 to 25 years in prison for a sexual assault he did not commit. The interview was on CNN soon after the announcement of Brock Turners wrist slap.

The young black man was later found innocent by DNA evidence. Eyewitness evidence and the boy's alibi had been ignored, the DNA evidence "lost" for 15 years.

This young man, now 31, felt that if had spent 15 years in a maximum security prison for a crime he did not commit, Turner should at least spend 2-6 years in prison (not county jail) for a crime he DID commit. The black boy, at age 16, had no prior record as a juvenile. Turner DOES have a juvenile record--for drugs and alcohol!

If the poll can't even state the underlying facts correctly, the result should be disregarded. People need to be aware that there is a huge difference between three months' and three years' probation (in our system there is basically no such thing as "three months' probation"), and one has no idea why Mr. Brown is "quite confident" that the length of the jail sentence was the driving factor. Perhaps he has some sort of crystal ball, in which case he could simply dispense with the poll. Ideally he should start over again using the correct facts. Sorry to sound cynical, but I have simply been around too long to sit around and watch public policy get set by this kind of thing.

I feel I have to respond to the comments of "Mom" and "Unfit". First of all, no one should have to spend even five minutes in jail for a crime they did not commit. The fact that someone was unjustly imprisoned does not mean that a guilty person should get more jail time than was given to them. The comparison doesn't even make any sense.
Secondly, if people are so outraged at the judge and demand his recall, what about the probation officer who recommended county jail in lieu of prison? It is pretty much normal in most cases for judges to follow probation reports. Shouldn't the Probation Department be sacked for failing to anticipate popular outrage? I think there's a lack of moral consistency here among the outraged.
Finally, I think the citizens of Palo Alto and its environs should be asking themselves whether they really believe that if the same crimes of which Mr. Turner was convicted were committed against a woman of color in an impoverished, crime-ridden neighborhood (as opposed to the grounds of an Ivy League campus) would generate anywhere near the amount of outrage and media attention as the Turner case, and especially whether the penalty would be any worse. It would be very interesting to find out how often such cases are even prosecuted.

Please check your assumptions. Why do you assume that Turner's victim was NOT a woman of color? I have been surprised by the people who have assumed that she is white. What if he is a white man who got away with assaulting a woman of color? All these Public Defenders and law students who argue that sentencing him will somehow through some highly attenuated chain of causation hurt minorities -- do victims have a race to you? Do you think that only male rape defendants have a race? Just checking.

If Brock Turner was, just for the sake of the argument, a white man who assaulted a nonwhite woman and got basically away with it, what would happen to all these people and their arguments? Would they admit there is an issue with this judge or continue to defend him?

What would you do then?

To: @holmes --

Actually, the argument is about Persky and his ruling, not about faulting the reasoning of others and what they might do if the skin colors of the defendant and victim were to be hypothetically one of your offered permutations. The Persky recall is not about race, or Public Defenders, or law students.
Your wording suggests your comments about "what others would do" and/or what would happen to their arguments"-- is off task. Your reasoning is sophistry and slight of hand--re-direction. You are not a soothsayer, even though you seem to be offering little more than rhetorical questions.
Is Persky fit to continue as a judge given his ACTUAL ruling -- based upon HIS assumptions -- is the question. Make a legal argument for or against recall based on this.
"Oliver Wendell HOMES" [sic]? Have the courage to use your given surname rather than use Oliver Wendell Holmes to posture by using a veiled suggestion you likely hope others will assume that you are either/or/both an attorney/judge.
All in all, sanctimony is not an argument.

Persky has demonstrated more than once that he is not capable of judging impartially. He needs to go.

A recall is moot, because he will continue to serve until his current term expires, which I believe is in the fall (??). So the best plan is to just vote him out of his position at the next election.

This recall effort feels like a witch-hunt to me. I'm no legal expert, I know little about this judge's history, and I don't know the full content of the Turner trial. That said, many of those that I have heard calling for this judge's head have many misunderstandings about what actually happened in this case.

The information that I have heard from an unbiased source very close to this trial leads me to believe that the sentencing was appropriate. Turner's actions were NOT acceptable, and he SHOULD have been convicted. He will pay a steep price for these actions - he has lost his Stanford education and will be a convicted felon and registered sex offender for the rest of his life. There were mitigating factors, however, that the judge appropriately considered in the sentencing.

I have two daughters and would hate for either of them to have to go through something like this. Applying sanctimonious, ill-informed criteria to this case and calling for this judge's head is not the best way to protect them, however. I choose to protect them by telling that these things do happen in high school and college and that the prime objective of most boys in supplying drinks to girls at these parties is to get them to a state where they make bad decisions. We've also discussed how the bad decisions don't start when you're drunk, they start with that first or second drink that primes you to make bad decisions about subsequent drinks.

My son has also been part of these discussions, and we've made it very clear to him that we expect him to treat girls the way he (and we as parents) would want his sisters to be treated.

If anyone has any hard evidence that this judge should be recalled, or that this sentencing was inappropriate, please present it. Not that my opinion really matters, but I'm certainly open to it - I just haven't seen it yet. Injustices by other judges certainly doesn't qualify, however. Neither does the linked story about a similar Persky case - they are not the same.

Very, very happy to see this. I've been reading and keeping up with this story since it broke. I've read the court documents, arguments for and against Mr. Turner and literally hundreds of comments.

All of the arguments about Judicial Independence fail when it comes to Mr. Persky. He failed monumentally here and for those of you that do not understand that really need to wake up. He is a special case of unethical behavior and that is why there has been such an uproar. That the and the growing strength of the female community that is finally standing up for our rights and penalties for those who take them away (justice). He needs to go.

Talk about poor judgement. All right. Persky and the Probation Officer both need to go.