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Community gives feedback about budget shortfall
Original post made on Sep 8, 2016
Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, September 8, 2016, 4:52 PM
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a resident of Barron Park
on Sep 8, 2016 at 8:06 pm
Marc Vincenti is a registered user.
I heartily applaud Mr. Boyd for his efforts on class size. If he wants to get in touch with Save the 2,008, we'll do everything in our power to help.
And cheers to board candidate Todd Collins for wanting sensible reform too.
On the other hand, it's dismaying and inexplicable that "McGee stated that the board is maintaining its commitment to keep class sizes small, noting that average class sizes remain at or below union-contract requirements..."
In a cogent guest opinion in the Weekly on May 9th, Sally Kadifa and Rita Tetzlaff patiently and publicly explained why the union-contract number is meaningless:
"According to the most recent enrollment data obtained from Palo Alto Unified School District (PAUSD), the two high schools together have a total of 1,953 classes listed in the database.
"But 776 of these classes (40 percent) have eight or fewer students, or are non-instructional classes such as advisory and tutorial.
"These types of classes are found in every department across both schools. Some of these sections are opportunities for special need or advanced students to receive credit for individualized instruction or independent study or for students receiving class credit for being teaching assistants.
"And yet, these small sections are averaged in with all the other instructional classes in the department and school to determine staffing ratios.
"These very small classes bring down the overall average class sizes to below or near the range of the official target ratios, thus misrepresenting to the community and the school board how large most classes at our high schools really are.
Last fall I hand-counted the number of high-school classes in the district, from the spreadsheet Mr. McGee's staff sent me. There were 407 classes with thirty or more teenagers in the room. For last year's spring semester, trustee Ken Dauber has said, there were 425 such classes.
This isn't as debilitating as our county jails but it's headed that way.
It makes no sense to be putting our high-schoolers on "wellness teams" or sending them to "wellness centers"--which we barely leave them time to do, anyway--for some kind of relief when we sent them right back, day after day, into overcrowded rooms that where the social-emotional fabric is under stress, weak, or torn entirely.
The numbers, for both teachers and students, are implacable:
If you're in class of thirty, as opposed to twenty, there is less chance your hand will be called on in class discussion, there is less chance you'll get a helpful conference with your teacher just before or after the bell, there is less chance you'll get your homework back quickly, there's less chance it will have rich, tailored feedback, there's less chance your teacher (who may have an overall load of 125-150 students) will be available to see you after school, and there's less chance your teacher will be able to show up on Friday for your home basketball game or concert.
These myriad "less chances" pile up, day after day and year after year, into a huge deficit in learning and well-being. It's a matter of numbers and the numbers, right now, are working against our kids.
Best,
Marc Vincenti
Campaign Coordinator
Save the 2,008
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Sep 8, 2016 at 8:49 pm
Cut PA administrative bloat and leave the teachers alone. We have plenty of property tax revenue.
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 8, 2016 at 11:36 pm
I expect to get my ballot in early October; that's how much time is left for the Board of Education & the Superintendent to come up with a solution without any financial trickery. If there is no solution by the time I get my ballot, or if the solution involves any financial hand waving, I will NOT be voting for either Heidi Emberling or Melissa Batten Caswell, because they have demonstrated they don't have the skills to budget, which I consider a minimum requirement for the job.
The Board and the Superintendent have known there was a problem since early July, and 3+ months is more than enough time to come up with a reasonable solution.
Tell your friends to the same.
a resident of Barron Park
on Sep 9, 2016 at 3:50 am
retired guy who follows the schools is a registered user.
"common sense," I'm doing the same. No vote from me for Heidi Emberling or Melissa Caswell.
Ya gotta like Mr. McGee asking for help: "I would love to hear what the community would like--and how we'll fund it."
OK, well, when he wanted to build his "super school" at Cubberley, it came out sounding as if plenty of Silicon Valley deep-pockets types were ready, willing, and able to fork over millions.
Wouldn't their names and numbers and email addresses still be in McGee's phone memory or email accounts? Hey, how hard is it to email, or make a call?
Sure, some donors may say no, 'cause it won't get their name on a new building. On the other hand however we're talking about schools whose kids have killed themselves even just last April (sorry to bring this up), and smaller classes are gonna probably keep kids more sane and grounded--and they'll maybe "bond" with a favorite teacher (like I did in high school) who helps them de-escalate and keep going.
My point is: Silicon Valley is rolling in money, WOW is it rolling in money, but we have students unhappy enough to do these sad things--so just move some of the damn money where it could so something useful.
I heard Zuckerberg pledged a few years ago, like, $30 million to New Jersey schools. He lives right here. And I'm sure he's got a lot of successful friends who live around here too!
Please, McGee, make some phone calls! The worst people can do is say no.
G.B.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Sep 9, 2016 at 9:24 am
Class size is not the answer to everything.
Money will not always bring about the best changes.
So, a big impact, free fix would be to limit technology that limits teacher contact in real time and prevents them from differentiation, checking for understanding in person or with comments while they are online. There needs to be a limit per age group on daily screen time. I think each teacher may think theirs is the only class and not realize the entire load of all other classes.
Sal Kahn is a great resource, but he can not see a kid start to cry and know their emotional limits while learning.
This is a free fix that could be done easily by prudent administrators.
a resident of College Terrace
on Sep 9, 2016 at 9:40 am
To "retired guy who follows the schools," you are 100 percent correct that Zuckerbergs should pony up the shortfall. He has a social responsibility to use a tiny portion of his obscene wealth to make this problem go away. I know his PR shills will slam this idea, claiming not to be his shills... I expect that. But the truth is right there for everyone to see. Its pocket change to him and life altering for the kids in the district. And so let us start right now a movement to call upon the Zuckerbergs to open their fat wallets to the community in its time of need.
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 9, 2016 at 11:34 am
Own Up is a registered user.
@ PA Online: "multimillion-dollar budget shortfall, which caught the district off-guard in July".
The PA School Board was not "caught off guard". Rather, they were irresponsibly aggressive in their budget calculations and teacher/administrator raises instead of conservatively approaching the budgeting process. This "shortfall" was completely avoidable! Santa Clara County Assessor Larry Stone advised the numbers the School Board were given were not net numbers. Larry is quoted in the PA Online 7/15 article: "We meet with them for just this reason, so they can clearly understand that these are just monthly gross numbers, not net numbers," he said. "If you're a finance director or superintendent of Palo Alto Unified, you know there's a lot of exempt property," he said. "These aren't rookies here." And now our School Board is wasting precious time trying to figure out how to fix this massive mistake which has long term consequences.
How dare the PA School Board claim after the fact to be or ignorant about the huge Stanford tax exemptions and "surprised" by the shortfall. The School Board was warned. Own up!
a resident of Greene Middle School
on Sep 9, 2016 at 12:27 pm
Denial runs deep at PAUSD. Max spent the first 20 minutes of this meeting trying to explain how "out of the blue" the shortfall was, even though the data he gave clearly showed the exact same thing happened 5 years ago! The difference was that then we didn't give out teacher raises in advance, an innovation brought to us by ... Dr. McGee! And cheered on by board members Emberling and Caswell. Oops!
The latest "plan" is still smoke & mirrors. McGee said he wouldn't use "reserves" but does plan to use "last year's surplus" - which normal people would call...reserves! He's also proposing to use $1.2 million in long-term bond funding to pay for short-term IT equipment - even Caswell dumped on that idea at the last board meeting. And counting 2.2 teacher spots "we couldn't fill" as a savings - that's the same as cutting teachers, which is the LAST thing we should cut.
We've got a long way to go on this one, folks.
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 9, 2016 at 12:38 pm
Muddied is a registered user.
The PAUSD got themselves into this fix, they have only themselves to blame--and they should cowboy up and fix "their" mistakes themselves!
They should even entertain a single thought of trying to extort more money from residents to fix their carelessness.
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Sep 9, 2016 at 1:18 pm
Somebody sent me this gem from last spring. Rich in irony: "This new agreement enables ... the district ... to plan for their financial futures with certainty"!
Wow! Yes, we have certainty alright - certainly messed up.
Web Link
PAUSD and Bargaining Units Reach Historic Agreement
The three-year contract ...is a first of its kind for PAUSD as the school district’s practice has typically been to negotiate during the school year and for the current school year. This new agreement enables both the district and the employees to plan for their financial futures with certainty and sustainability.
I applaud the good work of all parties involved and the historic milestone they have helped the district reach,” said Board of Education President Heidi Emberling.
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Sep 9, 2016 at 2:26 pm
Actual not average class sizes are important is a registered user.
We should have ACTUAL classes sizes equal to the teachers' contract - NOT average ESPECIALLY in 7th and 8th grade (and my kids are in college). 7th grade is the first year the students change classes for every subject. A large class size makes it SO much harder for a teacher to get to know the students.
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 9, 2016 at 2:29 pm
Due to repeated violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are automatically removed. Why?
a resident of Palo Verde
on Sep 9, 2016 at 2:30 pm
It is so embarrassing and depressing that our district leadership and board made this incredible blunder. Certainly high level Churchill based admins should NOT be receiving their "me too" raises at all.
In a situation where finances are looking unexpectedly flush (falsely so, it turns out) the appropriate option would have been to offer a small raise, that always incurs compounding and benefits expenses, partnered with a substantial bonus based on good finance numbers. Then when things don't turn out as expected the bonus does not need to happen. If money is overflowing, then sure float out the bonuses.
Appalling that our district staff is inept with finances. Appalling that they are still acting like this was an unforseeable downturn when in fact it was clear error, or worse intentional fudging. Appalling that union negotiations are conducted with such clear inherent conflicts of interest.
a resident of Palo Verde
on Sep 9, 2016 at 2:37 pm
No reason the Zuckerbergs should bail out our wealthy but mis-managed school district. (Maybe the suggestion was a joke.)
Honestly, there are so many much needier places their money should go.
I am very tired of the assumption that more, free money is always available. "It's Palo Alto. Everyone's rich." We need proper stewardship of the existing budget. Why should anyone want to give more money to an institution (however important it's responsibilities are) that doesn't know how to create a livable budget?
a resident of Downtown North
on Sep 9, 2016 at 2:37 pm
By the way every one of these bad decisions was made over the strong objections of board member Ken Dauber. He not only objected to the size of the raise, he gave a presentation about what a bad idea it was. When these folks talk about how they made the best possible decision at the time ask them why they didn't listen to Dauber.
a resident of Green Acres
on Sep 9, 2016 at 2:44 pm
Hey, 'That's Right', a big part of the problem is the OBSCENE salary MANY of the teachers and the incompetent District Administrators are taking home. Web Link
Wealthy people in the private sector actually earn their money, they don't vote themselves raises based on a concept as childish as 'me too'. Private citizens don't owe a thing to a wasteful enterprise like the government. They pay taxes, and that's all they owe. These people would have been gone in an instant if they worked in the private sector. Throwing hard earned money at a government problem NEVER works, it only deepens the corruption.
a resident of Community Center
on Sep 9, 2016 at 3:25 pm
McGee's attempt on Wednesday to obfuscate the source of the projection error was consistent with what he has been doing. He's evidently trying to protect his staff. The truth as Larry Stone said is that Mak should have asked whether there would be any large exemptions to offset the increase in property values. Obviously the assessor knew that $1.2 billion of the property value increase was at Stanford, and that $1.2 billion would be exempt. This was just a dumb error.
Where McGee broke some ground on Wednesday was saying there would be significant cuts in district office staffing including some cuts this year. That is a big change from a few weeks ago. That is probably due to Dauber's repeating at board meetings and in the newspaper for the last two months that there need to be deep cuts, and Caswell joining him in the last board meeting - and Collins who may well be on the board soon chiming in.
There is still a lot of daylight between Dauber and McGee but it is narrowing and it's because McGee is moving. If Dauber keeps pushing on rescinding the 4% admin raise will McGee fold on that? Will the other board members?
Unhappy campers in the room on Wednesday: Jorge Quintana, the PR guy who Godfrey and Dauberhave targeted for obsolescence, and Scott Bowers, the hapless HR director who has already lost the increased staff that the two targeted in June but were outvoted, and will probably lose more in any DO staff purge.
a resident of Barron Park
on Sep 9, 2016 at 6:04 pm
I agree with the commentators that Zuckerberg should step up [portion removed]. Someday his kids will be students her. To those that are fixated on blaming school officials, your rigidity only hurts the children. When all is said and done, it's not about the administrators it's about the children. [Portion removed.]
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 9, 2016 at 7:43 pm
Zuckerberg is not responsible for the incompetence and arrogance at PAUSD.
The only thing PAUSD has shown is that when they're given more more money, they blow it.
a resident of Downtown North
on Sep 9, 2016 at 9:06 pm
McGee and his now, very over paid inner circle of administrators, completely blundered the budget. Inexplicably, most of the PAUSD Board concurred, and THAT does not seem to be the problem. Any solution moving forward advanced by McGee would appear to require, eventually, cuts in some form or another cuts to student spending. Spending on his me-too raise is off limits.
Time to let McGee's contract run out and find a replacement. Time for a mostly new school bard too, in my opinion.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 10, 2016 at 12:40 am
What I have gathered from these discussions is this: Scott Bowers negotiates on behalf of the district, representing families, with the teachers union. To do his job, he's supposed to keep costs as low as possible while ensuring quality of employment.
But Scott Bowers gets a Me Too raise if he gives the teachers as much as he can possibly give them. With all the other raises, his salary has gone up around 25% in the last few years. Scott Bowers is married to a teacher, according to many posters. This creates a further conflict of interest. Bowers has a personal interest in wnsuring as much money is given away as possible because he personally benefits.
How can this be legal? (Something I hear myself say so often in regards to the behavior at 25 Churchill.)
a resident of Barron Park
on Sep 10, 2016 at 8:11 am
To "get rid of them," you miss the point. You say Zuckerberg is not responsible. Who said he was? [Portion removed.] I can tell you this , should I ever find myself with this type of wealth, I would help with no questions asked. [Portion removed.]
a resident of Palo Verde
on Sep 10, 2016 at 8:36 am
Before we shakedown Zuck or any citizens, shouldn't Max go back to the teachers, admit he screwed up, negotiated on bad data (or bad faith), and ask for the money back?
After all, he should have a lot of goodwill with the staff. If the cries of "think of the children" ring true in the teachers hearts, they'll contribute to the solution.
It might make Max less willing to take the me-to raise...
a resident of Barron Park
on Sep 10, 2016 at 9:06 am
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a resident of Greenmeadow
on Sep 13, 2016 at 9:06 am
Why do we take what Larry Stone says for granted? His office is as clear as mud, so I highly doubt they were clear to the school district. Not, that I don't think the district made a big mistake, but I bet the assessor's office helped with the mistake.
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