Southgate is lucky that they are finally getting the parking program
permits that they deserve. Question - will this drive Paly Students and Staff to park
over the train tracks onto Churchill and other Old Palo Alto streets?
Taking one problem from one neighborhood to another is not solving
a city wide problem? Maybe Paly needs to build a 4 level parking
structure?

Neva

Paly needs to do provide better parking options for students and visiting parents.

[Portion removed.] Paly staff and students are not banned from parking in Southgate. They are limited to 2 hours. Try to get the facts right.

At this point, why don't we have permit parking everywhere in Palo Alto and use the permit system a tool to eliminate car campers?

Bill - the permit system is only in force until 5pm on weekdays and not at all one weekends.

@Bill, El Camino is a state road so Palo Alto doesn't have jurisdiction. Many of the RVs are for Stabford Medical patients and their families who aren't provided any reasonable housing during their treatment. Many others are lower-paid Stanford employees and their army of construction workers for Stanford's continuing explosion,

PA's only leverage is to threaten to limit Stanford's expansion and future growth plans and we all know that's not going to happen.

STP- if palo alto has no jurisdiction, what are they supposed to leverage?

@Wrong, PA has leverage because PA gets a vote on Stanford's expansion plans here and throughout SC County.

There have been numerous articles and discussions about this on PA Online.

In fact, Stanford, Palo Alto Forward and PA Chamber of Commerce and others recently announced a task force to plan the future of the 101 and the Rail Transit Corridor to determine what's BEST FOR COMMUTERS -- not residents, not tourists, not people who want to attend cultural events 35 miles away!

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STP- when did you conduct the survey that determined that the people in those trailers are associated with Stanford. Sounds like you are claiming all of them are. Are they parking illegally? You may not like them parking there but it is legal.

@Wrong, It being legal doesn't negate the fact that PA has leverage. I didn't conduct the survey but about a month ago there was a long discussion on Next Door wondering about the proliferation of RVs on ECR and what could be done since many consider them an eyesore. About 100 people participated in the discussion.

Several people got curious and went out and actually talked to the RV residents whom they described as mostly nice people who couldn't afford motel/hotel rates of more than $200 a day.

The conclusion was they were a) Stanford Med patients and families, b) lower-paid Stanford employees, c) Stanford construction workers who went home on weekends, and d) some other people who simply preferred RV living to apartment living.

So bottom line, there is just some comments on a website about who these people are. What they are doing is legal, they place Is not within local jurisdiction, they appear to be nice people. Yet you want to get rid of them. That sounds like a typical palo alto response.
I am one next door and must have missed that discussion.

> Stanford, Palo Alto Forward and PA Chamber of Commerce and others recently announced a task force to plan the future of the 101 and the Rail Transit Corridor <

PA Forward is now a member of the Chamber of Commerce. PAF is lead by a developer, an architect, 2 housing construction advocates, and 2 Palantir employees. They will fit right in.
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Why are the College Terrace parking permits $40 each (resident and guest), and no "first one free"?

@STP - Palo Alto definitely does have jurisdiction in terms of setting parking hours. Please notice the east side of El Camino Real adjacent to Paly where the city opened up parking spots and put up No Parking 4pm-6pm signs in order to increase parking for Paly students.

City could easily put up No Parking 10pm - 5am signs on the west side of El Camino.

In addition there are definitely 72 hour parking restrictions that should be enforced.

@Jim H -- Interesting if true. I wonder why the city hasn't acted.

Also, remember when the city was talking about "fixing" the Embarcadero / El Camino intersection and defended its inaction because it needed to get "buy-in" from all the stakeholders, including Stanford and the County and the State? That was about 7 years ago; I guess they're still getting doing outreach and getting buy-in.

So what's happening with adding shuttle bus service that will get the kids to/from school on time??

Paly's boundaries go as far south as Loma Verde. There is no public transportation or shuttles to get those students to school. Some will ride 3+ miles on bikes, but for many the only way to get to school is by car.

The system does very little to prevent cars for the Paly commute and this will make it much harder for students.

Staff and students will simply park across the tracks in Old Palo Alto like people do for Stanford games.